Trawlermen and Cabinet Ministers

DaveMorton

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Completely off-topic, but I've been watching the excellent BBC documentary "Trawlermen: hunting the catch". I don't think I've ever been so impressed by any group of people, some from Yorkshire, but also Scotland and Devon & Cornwall. The motivation is 100% money; it's not sport fishing! But the team-spirit of the deck hands, the humour and courage and sheer hard bloody work. Also the relationship with the owner / captain, upon whose intelligence and judgment depends both the safety and livelihood of the men. (No women, that I've seen so far. Perhaps you've got to become a fisherman to get away from them!) It's like a microcosm of our larger society, and perhaps how it could be made to work.

Then we get the evening news, and more stories about the back-stabbing, lying scum who govern us.
 

Karma

Well-known member
Absolutely to everything you say. A similar tv programme (on Freeview 12 Quest) but set around the North America Continent was shown over a number of years - in this case the sole catch was giant spider crabs, no net used but very large 'crab pots' the size of wardobes. Extremely dangerous seas and working conditions. Your brilliant description of the 'Trawlermen', working for money, but with a courageous and humorous team spirit. And the captain/owner risking everything including his boat! I'll be watching this.

And although I have never watched it for more than 5 minutes, 'I'm a Celebrity ,Get Me Out of Here' had an ex-Government Health Minister, Matt Hancock presumably getting his come-uppance for being what, another politician who broke the rules? Eating A Kangaroos parts, no make him eat his own words!

On the other hand, I had occasion to visit an NHS hospital yesterday, the care, consideration and dedication given isn't based upon money, or else many hospitals would not have set up food banks for staff, especially nurses.

Heroes all.
 

Donnylad

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Absolutely to everything you say. A similar tv programme (on Freeview 12 Quest) but set around the North America Continent was shown over a number of years - in this case the sole catch was giant spider crabs, no net used but very large 'crab pots' the size of wardobes. Extremely dangerous seas and working conditions. Your brilliant description of the 'Trawlermen', working for money, but with a courageous and humorous team spirit. And the captain/owner risking everything including his boat! I'll be watching this.

And although I have never watched it for more than 5 minutes, 'I'm a Celebrity ,Get Me Out of Here' had an ex-Government Health Minister, Matt Hancock presumably getting his come-uppance for being what, another politician who broke the rules? Eating A Kangaroos parts, no make him eat his own words!

On the other hand, I had occasion to visit an NHS hospital yesterday, the care, consideration and dedication given isn't based upon money, or else many hospitals would not have set up food banks for staff, especially nurses.

Heroes all.
I am the Administrator and a Team Leader for a foodbank. our area is nothing links the inner cities and large towns (see the Guardian today) but we see the increase in demand. Almost half our clients are couples with kids, working, trying to heat and eat and bring up their kids.

My wife was at our local hospital yesterday, a short notice consultant appointment, apprpriate tests, treatment plan all handled in exemplary fashion
I heard some government sh*t pedlar saying that nurses and other low paid NHS staff were militants exploiting the situation. Tory story - clap the NHS when we are up sh*t creek .... keep cutting their real terms pay afterwards. The nurses just want to get back to where they were in wage terms in 2010. Now tell me, who has been 'managing' the country in the last 12 years????
 

DaveMorton

Well-known member
Sadly, those militant nurses will get no support from New Labour, either, who now resemble a Tory 2nd XI as they battle for the middle vote. When they had a Socialist leader, they got rid of him, just as the Tories got rid of their 'unelectable' whatever she was called.

Boris had the support of trawlermen, around the time of Brexit - I was on holiday in Brixham, saw the banners - but he screwed them well and truly. As I'm sure they knew he would. I think I will have another week there this summer. Fabulous town.
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Karma

Well-known member
I am the Administrator and a Team Leader for a foodbank. our area is nothing links the inner cities and large towns (see the Guardian today) but we see the increase in demand. Almost half our clients are couples with kids, working, trying to heat and eat and bring up their kids.

My wife was at our local hospital yesterday, a short notice consultant appointment, apprpriate tests, treatment plan all handled in exemplary fashion
I heard some government sh*t pedlar saying that nurses and other low paid NHS staff were militants exploiting the situation. Tory story - clap the NHS when we are up sh*t creek .... keep cutting their real terms pay afterwards. The nurses just want to get back to where they were in wage terms in 2010. Now tell me, who has been 'managing' the country in the last 12 years????
Well done you, Donnylad, foodbanks don't operate in a on their own and quite literally the difference between people eating and not (in many cases the parents will not eat so the children can). My wife's hairdresser said that "everyone who goes to a foodbank is on the fiddle and just turn up when they want some free food". My wife put him straight, explained that you can only get food if you are referred and it's normally for a max of 3 days. And the food is basic, no perishables or frozen stuff. My wife, when she goes to the supermarket where customers can make donations, has noticed there has been a bit of a falloff in contributions, she puts in thigs like cupa-soup ,, tea, Smash (instant potato) ,breakfast cereals and long-life milk, tinned fruit and rice pudding, anything that doesn't require much if any cooking.

There's no point in me recommending my favourite recipe when I was a student in Liverpool in the 1960's . Basically, you opened a tin of baked bean, took the label off and placed the can directly on the gas hob. stir a couple of times and eat straight from the can (minimum washing up) But the problem is often no money for cooking . Foodbanks are not a luxury, but they can help get people though a difficult time.

I'm aware of the fact that food comes from all over for the banks, but supermarkets are cutting down on waste and surplus food has reduced just at the time when there is increased demand. The Trussel Trust has launched an emergency plea for extra funds from the public. The financial need has become pretty acute. Of course, the Food Banks also are a source of information, help and guidance for people. So well done!
 

Hawke

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I recently watched a 'TV Movie', 'Hull's Headscarf Heroes', about the triple loss of 3 Hull trawlers in Jan/Feb 1968 with the loss of 58 crew members. It mainly follows the work of the widows in trying to make Parliament pass laws to help install better communication systems between ships and land.
 
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