T20 World Cup in Australia.

DaveMorton

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Good performance, easily the two best sides in the tournament, best bowling and fielding sides. The Test series between them should be fun, though more fun if it was played in Australia.

I'm astonished to learn that before the Pakistan trip, England now begin a 3-match ODI series against Australia, beginning this Thursday, Nov 17th. "Well played lads, you climbed Everest very well. Now just do K2 so we can get value for money out of you."

It seems Maxwell has done a Bairstow and broken his leg, at a party whilst sober, apparently.
 

tbsteve

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Good performance, easily the two best sides in the tournament, best bowling and fielding sides. The Test series between them should be fun, though more fun if it was played in Australia.

I'm astonished to learn that before the Pakistan trip, England now begin a 3-match ODI series against Australia, beginning this Thursday, Nov 17th. "Well played lads, you climbed Everest very well. Now just do K2 so we can get value for money out of you."

It seems Maxwell has done a Bairstow and broken his leg, at a party whilst sober, apparently.
I think it's part of the qualifying process for the 2023 World Cup. The schedule is ridiculous - like playing ODIs against Netherlands whilst Test team are taking on NZ. South Africa have cancelled a trip to Australia for ODI series and so will likely need to go into next the preliminary round of next year's WC.

Three years, three world cups!
 

tbsteve

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I loved it! What a game! I think it was Brook who said he'd expected a better pitch, but personally I think a more challenging strip adds to the game.

And what a tournament for Curran - he's really developing well. I'd love to see him get another run in the test side to add some variety too.
 

DaveMorton

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He was picked too soon, now he's right. England always do this, reject players who become better with maturity. Chris Jordan is so much better now than when first selected, so too Adil Rashid, though his chronic shoulder problem seems to rule him out of the Test team.

The pitch for the final was perfect. Good batsmen scored runs, good bowlers took wickets. Champagne Moments include Adil's googly to get Babar c & b, and Buttler's scoop for six.
 

Newby

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I was anxious that it was going to chuck it down any minute but thankfully they got through a full game with just a light drizzle.

Pakistan have a very dangerous bowling attack, the injury to Shaeen was a great shame though I don't think it affected the result.

We couldn't match them for speed with Wood side-lined but we outbowled them with the guile of Adil Rashid and the intelligence of Sam Curran, who I think deserved his man of the tournament award.

Stokes had a bit of luck, but he rode it and played the innings the situation demanded.

The 3 match 50 over thing seems a bit odd straight after this and just before the Big Bash starts.
 

DaveMorton

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The Sheffield Shield - a marginalised f-c comp, as in England - has been in progress. The other day, Queensland bowled Victoria out for 63 at the awful Gabba, Neser and Steketee doing the damage. Western Australia reckon they have the fastest bowler in Oz, a wild tearaway called Lance Morris. After a bit of a lull, it looks as though fast bowling is on the increase again.

Not that Neser and Steketee are remotely quick. I was thinking more of Pakistan.
 

Hawke

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Kept up with the score on the internet. Looked like they got bogged down mid-way through but they came good. Well done all. Great recopvey from the Ireland defeat. Sign of the modern world when 4 of the team have parents from overseas, Stokes, Curran, Rashid and Ali. Salt's family spent a long time in the WI and Jordan is from the WI. A spot of diversity!
And my window cleaner now has a World Cup winning nephew!
 

Newby

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My wife was asking me why the England players were wearing black armbands. She had never heard of David English in whose memory they were worn. Sad news that the driving force behind the Bunbury youth cricket festival had died over the weekend.

Eccentric doesn't quite cover it, and I'm sure he wasn't everyone's cup of tea, but his enthusiasm for the game of cricket was undeniable. RIP, and here's hoping someone equally enthusiastic can be found to carry on his work to help bring on young players with the Bunbury festival.
 

DaveMorton

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Rich celebs who like cricket? Mick Jagger and Stephen Fry (who is already enthroned at MCC) of the older ones, but Daniel Radcliffe? He would be ideal.

I always thought the Bunbury was a bit elitist. That's socially elitist, it was supposed to be for a cricket elite, but it seemed all a bit jolly hockey sticks, no doubt because the teacher-run County associations were run by these people. I suspect they still are as our game becomes less diverse socially, if not racially.
 

Newby

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Lots of England cricketers seem to have come through the system and appeared at the Bunbury festival as young men. I think the England team wearing of black arm bands at a World cup final says something about how the man's contribution to cricket was viewed.

I fear there are so many diversity boxes to tick now that it may prove too difficult to keep it going and lead to the whole thing coming to an end. A case of letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.
 

DaveMorton

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Absolutely. I was not knocking David English and his Bunbury Festival at all. Just worried that the game, which was the people's game when I was a kid - at least in Yorkshire - has become one played by the middle classes and Asians only. Or perceived that way.
 

tbsteve

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And the results from the comp:

Newby choose - IND - Aus - Eng+Pak
Dave choose ENG - NZ - Pak + Bang
Steve choose ENG - NZ - Ind + Pak
Hawke choose AUS - Ind - NZ + Pak
Donny - ENG - Ind - NZ + Neth

So with Hawke's method of 6 pts winner, 4 for runner up and 2 for losing SF

Steve and Donny - 8
Dave M - 6
Hawke - 2
Newby - 0

Though that seems to penalise someone like Newby who guessed 3 out of 4 semi finalists but got the winners and losers the wrong way round so got 0. An alternative system for the future could be 2 pts for each SF team (8 total) 4 for runner up and 6 for winner.

Loved the WC this year - everyone had a surprise result including the Irish beating us, and some great games. Hopefully the WC in India next year can also have a decent balance between bat and ball!
 
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Hawke

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And the results from the comp:

Newby choose - IND - Aus - Eng+Pak
Dave choose ENG - NZ - Pak + Bang
Steve choose ENG - NZ - Ind + Pak
Hawke choose AUS - Ind - NZ + Pak
Donny - ENG - Ind - NZ + Neth

So with Hawke's method of 6 pts winner, 4 for runner up and 2 for losing SF

Steve and Donny - 8
Dave M - 6
Hawke - 2
Newby - 0

Though that seems to penalise someone like Newby who guessed 3 out of 4 semi finalists but got the winners and losers the wrong way round so got 0. An alternative system for the future could be 2 pts for each SF team (8 total) 4 for runner up and 6 for winner.

Loved the comp - everyone had a surprise result including the Irish beating us, and some great games. Hopefully the WC in India next year can also have a decent balance between bat and ball!
thanks Steve....forgot to check that out....yes an interesting suggestion re points

so under that system Newby 6 Dave 10 Steve 12 Hawke 6 Donny 10
 

Newby

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thanks Steve....forgot to check that out....yes an interesting suggestion re points

so under that system Newby 6 Dave 10 Steve 12 Hawke 6 Donny 10
Surely there must be some way of apportioning the points that ends up with me winning. Perhaps whoever was counting the ballot at the EGM could give us some pointers.
 

tbsteve

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Looking at the by-laws of the competition, Newby may actually have a point. According to law 1119.119 Paragraph Z, anyone choosing a losing semi-finalist as a potential runner up or winner is automatically excluded from the final count, which sadly means Dave, Me and Donny are out. And there is a provisional by-law, 1121.117, which needs to be passed by a 2/3 majority of the membership, but retrospectively disqualifies anyone who choose the host as the winner. Which means if 2/3 agree, Hawke is also disqualified and Newby wins. Isn't that how a proper Yorkshire cricket committee works? ;)
 

DaveMorton

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Memories of when I was 18 and I won the Senior Cross Country competition for my house at school. I didn't win the race - don't be ridiculous - but I 'advised' the teacher organising the event on a fair way of processing the results. He was not bright. I don't think he had a clue that I was feverishly doing mental arithmetic, all the while talking to him.

The usual way with such an event is to take the positions and add them up for each team. But as there were wildly different numbers of competitors from the nine houses involved, it had to be a fixed number. I think my house had 6 in the top 20 (including myself), but our 7th runner was about 50th. I persuaded him that 6 was a good number, as the smallest house team had 8 runners, and it wouldn't be fair on them to include their worst two!

He really was thick! French and German teacher. He thanked me for my help, because he wasn't 'very good with numbers'. He wasn't very good at teaching French or German, either.
 

Donnylad

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Memories of when I was 18 and I won the Senior Cross Country competition for my house at school. I didn't win the race - don't be ridiculous - but I 'advised' the teacher organising the event on a fair way of processing the results. He was not bright. I don't think he had a clue that I was feverishly doing mental arithmetic, all the while talking to him.

The usual way with such an event is to take the positions and add them up for each team. But as there were wildly different numbers of competitors from the nine houses involved, it had to be a fixed number. I think my house had 6 in the top 20 (including myself), but our 7th runner was about 50th. I persuaded him that 6 was a good number, as the smallest house team had 8 runners, and it wouldn't be fair on them to include their worst two!

He really was thick! French and German teacher. He thanked me for my help, because he wasn't 'very good with numbers'. He wasn't very good at teaching French or German, either.
Merde und Scheisse DM!! You manipulative scoundrel! I tried something similar with points for relay races at sports day when I was teaching.
However the wily old 'Special Needs' teacher who kept the places and points won for each of around 100 events on the day. immaculately, on a huge chart pinned to a large dining table soon sussed me out and sent me packing back to my PA system with an earthily phrased remined about being neutral.
 
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