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Donnylad

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It's a potential quiz question: name the players who have worn the red rose of Lanky (aka vile weed) and the beautiful white one of Yorkshire.

Certainly Byas, Shahzad, Maharaj, and barring accidents, Wagner. Any other overseas?
I'm not sure if Barry Wood and Gary Keedy played for our 1st XI before departing.
I think there was a famous one back in the very old days, who moved when it was discovered he had an unacceptable birthplace.
It id question 3 that worries me .... who are the other great bowlers that we have??
 

Newby

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Stuart David Fletcher, rather than Norman Stanley Fletcher, was guilty of playing for Lancashire after Yorkshire in the early 1990's.

It's no good harrassing us D/L, we didn't say it.

How exactly is he meant to describe to the press the quality of the bowlers we already have, mediocre!

 
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tbsteve

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define great first D/L - great guys, great in the locker room, great in the gym, great sense of humour (think we all need one of those). It's not fair to assume he meant great players ;)
 

DaveMorton

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Just to be clear. DL quoted my comment, but it was Darren Gough who wrote:
"We are blessed to have some great bowlers to choose from within our ranks..."

Okay, put it in context, 'great' does not have to mean Hedley Verity or Fred Trueman, but it surely has to mean something better than Ben Mike or whatever the bloke from Kent is called. Fisher, Coad, Thompson and Bess might be considered 'worthy'.

Line-and-length may be the answer, if all the counties try to play Bazball in April. Two-day matches.
 

tbsteve

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Sorry, was wrongly assuming this was one of DGs.

Fisher - could be great if he can stay fit for more than a few games
Coad - coudl be a great line/length bowler, but seemed to go backwards
Thommo - could be great, but went backwards in the CC last year, possibly with too much burden with everyone else out
Bess - don't think he'll ever be great and seems to have gone down the pecking order with regards to England

So with DG and OG now in charge it's the bowlers going backwards. When AG and MM were in charge, we complained about the batting. Ironic eh?

Mike - no idea why we signed him on cricketing grounds, hope it wasn't something else.
Milnes - more of what we have, rmf

From the promise and arguments of who to drop out of Fisher/Willey/Thommo/Coad/Patto/Big D, to what we have now, is the opposite of great in my mind.
 

Newby

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Glenn Maxwell played for Lancashire as well as Yorkshire, he also featured for Surrey which is taking it a bit too far.

Finn Allen of course more recently played for both in T20's.
 

Hawke

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I think another Wail prediction. Their cricket person does have an ear to the ground at YCCC or a contact.
I worry about all the signings. The captain may be missing and I am not immediately impressed with the seamers. Also a dilution of the Yorkshire element. Hope that Coad, Fisher, Thompson, Leech and Revis can stay fit and keep them out!
 

Hawke

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There was a Clitheroe-born fast bowler, William Blackburn(e) who made appearances for Yorkshire in 1919 and 1920. He claimed to be born just inside the Yorkshire boundary at Sawley, Bowland, in the Historic West Riding near Clitheroe (today of course administered by Lancs County Council).
He moved to Bradford with his family as a teen and then as an adult lived before the Gt War in Liverpool, playing hockey for Lancs and once scoring a hat-trick in a Roses game. He was injured in WW1, recuperated back in Bradford, became a YCCC member and played for Yorks, falsely claiming the birthright!! (His mother and other relatives were from the Yorkshire side of the county boundary at Bowland). He did not keep his place, moved back to Lancs for work and had a family and, of course, worked in the then Lancashire and Yorkshire Bank!!!!
 

DaveMorton

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Ah yes, I'd forgotten Maxwell. I think I will go on forgetting him. Actually, did he really play for Lanky?
 

tbsteve

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My memory of Maxwell was that we signed mainly for one day team, but he was poor, but then he surprised everyone and did well in CC, including a great innings at Scarbados.

stats for CC seem to bear that out too - what didn't you like Dave?

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DaveMorton

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What I don't like about Maxwell? This could be the longest entry ever....
I'll start at Taunton which, I think, was his debut. My first sighting, anyway. He got out playing the worst defensive stroke, technically, I have ever seen from a batsman. Just about everything was wrong with it, but most of all my perception was that this was a bloke who held Yorkshire cricket in contempt, that the game he was playing in was no more important than backyard cricket with his mates.
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That impression was reinforced at Headingly when we played Middlesex. The two teams were obvious title contenders. Maxwell came in to bat with the game absolutely in the balance in the fourth innings. First ball, he attempted to reverse-slog Roland-Jones, clearly premeditated. The ball passed over the top of middle stump Fortunately for us, we had a teenager who kept his head, and we went on to win the game, and the title. Will Rhodes has also won a title as captain, since.

I'm not sure of the order, chronologically, but Maxwell also lost us a Roses T20 (I think - might have been 50 overs) by missing the stumps from point blank range for a run out, and Buttler went on to win the game that was ours 99% with that wicket. Maxwell was dropped by Yorkshire at one stage, and I saw him out for a duck at Scarborough, against Derbyshire 2s. He did get a century in the second innings, but I wasn't there.

However, I was there when he scored a 50-over century at Worcester, and also for the innings everyone remembers, the century in partnership with Rashid, against Durham at Scarborough. The plus-side of not caring, is that you don't feel pressured by situations. Anyway, he did this, and that innings made up for earlier failures. To a degree. To me, he was the most unprofessional overseas cricketer I have ever seen, or ever want to see.

Hope that answers it.
 

tbsteve

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Thanks Dave, that was interesting and somewhat balanced too! 2015 was prestreaming days and so living in the jungle, I didn't see much. My only real memory of him was the innings with Rashid which dug us out of a hole. I vaguely remember him being dropped for unprofessionalism which must be a rarity for overseas pros.

He was always attacking, he'd put England to the sword, maybe the season before, in ODIs. With many of his ilk it's all or nothing so I don't get annoyed when they fail, though wouldn't want whole team playing that way. The current England innings being case in point as we may struggle to make 300 but are only 47 overs in with 7 down!
 

Donnylad

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... didn't Maxwell used to style himself as "The BIg Show" in Aus Big Bash?

More like village panto it seems ... he has withdrawn his appeal aginst being suspended from any leadership position in Austraian team I believe.
 

Newby

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I note that Warner's partner in crime, Steve Smith, is captaining Australia in the current Test against the Windies.
 

Donnylad

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I note that Warner's partner in crime, Steve Smith, is captaining Australia in the current Test against the Windies.
Yes = amazing what some 'real tears' on telly can do. This was from the captain who (presumably?) didn't know and couldn't see what players in his team were doing.
 

Karma

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Yes = amazing what some 'real tears' on telly can do. This was from the captain who (presumably?) didn't know and couldn't see what players in his team were doing.
Absolutely disgraceful, he should have been banned from playing for longer and banned from captaincy for life. And they should have broken his favourite bat too. Crocodile tears from a cheat who was exposed.
 
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