Signings.

Karma

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I see that Harris Rauf is full of praise for Harry Brook according to YCCC's underwhelming website. Really nice. Not quite a bromance

Harry apparently was man of the series in the recent T20 v Pakistan. and he and Harris have of course played together both at Yorkshire and in the PSL (which they won with Lahore) Personally i don't think they'll be playing together much, if at all, at Yorkshire again, more to do with Harry's elevation to England.

However, Harris, who it is pointed out was the leading Pakistani bowler in the recent series was one of the *better signings for Yorkshire this season and I wonder if YCCC are indicating he's one they want back or if it's Rauf saying I'm available to come back?

Either way, if he does return that'd be two overseas players both coincidentally from Pakistan and indirectly sending another signal about how diverse we are in Yorkshire. Maybe not.

* Most were not any good if I'm honest taken on more out of desperation than anything else.

Edit. I forgot initially to add, based on what we hopefully have I'm not certain we need to sign anyone as a bowler, apart from maybe a spinner, assuming everyone we will have us fit and firing on all cylinders
 
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Donnylad

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I see that Harris Rauf is full of praise for Harry Brook according to YCCC's underwhelming website. Really nice. Not quite a bromance


Edit. I forgot initially to add, based on what we hopefully have I'm not certain we need to sign anyone as a bowler, apart from maybe a spinner, assuming everyone we will have us fit and firing on all cylinders
Edit. I forgot initially to add, based on what we hopefully have I'm not certain we need to sign anyone as a bowler, apart from maybe a spinner, assuming everyone we will have us fit and firing on all cylinders

.. and that is the $64,000 question. If any of the obvious opening, first change quicks pulls a fetlock or becomes unavailable we are down to Hill and/or Revis again. Yes - the lack of a 'spinning' spinner worries me. I have really taken to Bess this season, he is learning how to bowl on less than helpful pitches but a good sla would be worth their weight in gold. Batsmen - well most right handers and some of the other persuasion just do not like them.
 

Tykemania

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I think we need one more bowler - when you think about it, if Fisher is fit for a run of games we may quickly lose him to England, which would leave Thompson, Coad, Milnes and Leech (plus whatever we get from Hill and Revis, both of whom are batsmen first) before we get into desperation stakes. Rauf would add variety - I actually thought he looked good in his first few games with us - but I'd be equally happy if, say, Scott Boland fancied a County stint to prepare for the Ashes tour. Equally Maharaj (he's diverse enough, right?) because you could play both spinners and use Hill as the fourth seamer.
 

Hawke

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I think we need one more bowler - when you think about it, if Fisher is fit for a run of games we may quickly lose him to England, which would leave Thompson, Coad, Milnes and Leech (plus whatever we get from Hill and Revis, both of whom are batsmen first) before we get into desperation stakes. Rauf would add variety - I actually thought he looked good in his first few games with us - but I'd be equally happy if, say, Scott Boland fancied a County stint to prepare for the Ashes tour. Equally Maharaj (he's diverse enough, right?) because you could play both spinners and use Hill as the fourth seamer.
and Ben Mike!!
 

Donnylad

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He looked a better bowler when he bowled against us for Leics in 2020. He had also scored some decent runs as well. But he only played a handful of matches.

There is work to be done there by a bowling coach ..... I think we have one of those in place ........
 

Newby

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Latest from the club website is that they are still looking for a second overseas player for the CC next season. The Mail appears to have got David Wiese right and Neil Wagner wrong.

I'm not heartbroken about that as I'm not a fan of excessive short pitched bowling. Just so long as another second division outfit doesn't sign him up and play him against us.
 

DaveMorton

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Wagner was huge for Essex. He played for Lancs before that, and was booed all day at Headingley for his short stuff, which bothered him not one iota. The odd thing is that he's only around 80mph, like Dominic Cork before him, and for some reason these two didn't get smashed out of the park, as others would have done.

Does anyone understand why? Is it a case of the batsman playing the bowler, rather than the ball? We've got loads of lads who can bowl 80mph long-hops...but none with 246 Test wickets.
 

Newby

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I always presumed that he was either putting a little extra in, or holding the odd one back, without any discernible change of his action which led to batsmen being a little bit more cautious against his bowling.

Might need a forensic search of his dismissals to see how many were decent batters, and how many were tail-enders he just frightened out.

He doesn't seem to play very much cricket, only three matches, all FC, since the June Test in Leeds.
 

Tykemania

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There is also a part to the Wagner equation which is really astute captaincy - they set good fields for him that mean that batsmen are taking risks whether they attack the short stuff or try to evade it.
 

Newby

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There is also a part to the Wagner equation which is really astute captaincy - they set good fields for him that mean that batsmen are taking risks whether they attack the short stuff or try to evade it.
Astute captaincy has not been our strong suite for quite a while. Shan Masood will hopefully bring some with him, he got a big chuck up for his captaincy at Derbyshire, though other views are out there.
 

tbsteve

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Pakistan's Future Tours for 2023

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The NZ last match is May 7th, so probably looking at May 12 before he can play in Yorkshire. Some sites have Sri Lanka as June-July, others are saying July. Regardless, two tests plus warm up etc is another 3-4 weeks. August is a fairly quiet month for Pakistan, but the Hundred will be on, and then into Asian cup.

So my prediction is he'll come once, from Mid-May to end of June/early July. 6-8 weeks.
 

Newby

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We will have to see with Shan Masood. He's a very recent convert to the Pakistan T20 team and hasn't played very many ODI's either.

He's a good cricketer so he can be successful in any format, perhaps a little bit like Williamson or Root, but like them I don't think he's a natural in the shorter format.

Hopefully the PSL will throw up some exciting new batting talent and Masood will at least be dropped from the T20I's and hopefully the ODI's too.
 
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