Seasonal Cricket News Christmas/New year.

Newby

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Adam Lyth, currently with the Perth Scorchers in the BBL has had his bowling suspension lifted. I don't know if Perth fancy him bowling a few overs but it's good news for Yorkshire going forward.

Joe Root has been 'rested' from the England ODI team heading to South Africa to play in 3 ODI's in late January. He obviously doesn't feel he needs the rest however as he has signed up to play for the Dubai Capitals in the new UAE T20 league in the same period.

Most of the England ODI players, including Harry Brook and Adil Rashid will already be in South Africa taking part in their new T20 competition.
 

DaveMorton

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I wonder if the Hill, Revis, Duke group of players is getting a go at Oz club cricket, as players at that stage of development always used to. Bean and Luxton too, who would be next in line. And what about Bess? With Jeetan Patel on the England payroll, I hope he has not been shelved, at age 25!
 

Newby

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I wonder if the Hill, Revis, Duke group of players is getting a go at Oz club cricket, as players at that stage of development always used to. Bean and Luxton too, who would be next in line. And what about Bess? With Jeetan Patel on the England payroll, I hope he has not been shelved, at age 25!
I think we are usually told when young players head off to play grade cricket and I've not heard anything this year.

Difficult to see anything other than County cricket for Dom Bess, unless he suddenly starts to pull up some trees!
 

DaveMorton

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You don't get many 25-year-old spinner tree-pullers! Bess was picked for England at 20 years old. I would say his further development was hindered by the ECB pressurising Somerset to produce non-spinning pitches, so he had to move. I think we're fantastically privileged that he chose us, but Headingley in April is not the best place to bowl spin either.

Every time I see him - batting, fielding, bowling - I am reminded of Raymond Illingworth at the same age. Illy was around 3rd choice spinner for Yorkshire at that time, admittedly behind Appleyard and Wardle, but he got lots of cricket in all conditions. He was 26 when he made his England debut, but didn't really knock on the International door until after Laker's retirement a few years later.

Bess may or may not go on to fame and fortune, but as of now, he's on track. Or, at least, not off track. Remember, two of those years with us were Covid ruined, and last season was a management shambles all round. It must have been difficult for players to know what their role was, half the time.
 

Newby

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I hope you are right but he has to get himself back on the England radar somehow. Since he last played for England they have stuck with Leach and brought in Parkinson, Livingstone and now Ahmed. If you were a pessimist you might say the all rounder possibilities of Will Jacks or even Dan Lawrence could keep him out of contention.

Bess isn't going to get a call to join any franchise T20 outfit so he has to make his mark at Yorkshire. We'd all be delighted I'm sure if he could deliver the kind of performances that would get people talking him up as a possibility to play for England again.
 

DaveMorton

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England have picked Leach as their only specialist spinner for the Test tour to NZ. Lawrence, Jacks and (of course) Root are all back-up part-timers. Neither Livingstone nor Ahmed is selected, so no wrist spin at all.

If Leach were to fall off his perch, you wonder who England might pick as main spinner. Perhaps they would take the view that there is no one good enough in the finger-spinning department. Names that come to mind are Jack Carson, the Irish / England qualified lad from Sussex. He has just turned 22. Then there's Liam Patterson-White, who looks a good cricketer, a bit more experienced at 24. Callum Parkinson (26), Matt's twin, is another, and also left-arm, like LPW.

Anyone else? Jack Shutt? We might see a few as we move round the 2nd Division.
 

Newby

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Big payday for Harry Brook in the IPL auction he joins Sunrisers for £1.3 m where he will be joined by Adil Rashid who cost a whole lot less.

Sam Curran has broken the record as the most expensive buy £1.6m or thereabouts.
 

DaveMorton

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Not worth starting a new thread, but I have watched most of day 1 at the MCG, along with 66,000 in the ground, the occasion of David Warner's 100th Test. He got to bat late in the day, following S Africa's predictable collapse. Awful batting team.

The commentary team was at pains to tell us what a truly good bloke Warner is, and how popular in the dressing room, and opening the batting with his best boyhood friend, and all that.

Our very own Isa Guha, who is the best by far of all the female cricket pundits, excelled herself by describing de Bruyn's getting out shot as a 'no-Bruyn'. I did wonder how, roles reversed and someone making a play on her name, that would go down with the anti-racism McCarthyist police. I doubt if she would be worried, herself.

For the general Yorkshire sport follower, there's an excellent documentary about Matt Fitzpatrick on Sky Sports Golf. I am sure it will be repeated, ad nauseam, probably. I've just started watching my recording. Nice footage of Matt winning as a boy, with his even-younger brother on the bag.

England's best golfer since Nick Faldo? Discuss. There must be summat in Sheffield watter.
 
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Newby

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I have to admit that I found the most interesting bit in the Australia v South Africa Test match today was the footage of Anrich Nortje getting clonked on the head by the ridiculously low slung spidercam. A device which is gradually becoming more and more intrusive in cricket coverage, surely a drone would be far easier to set up.

News too that the England globetrotters are playing white ball cricket in Bangladesh in March, Dhaka and Chattogram (formerly Chittagong).
 

DaveMorton

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I see Kane Williamson scored his 25th Test century earlier today; Neil Wagner and Ajaz Patel also in the team, playing Pakistan, for whom Shan Masood made 3 (as it happens). Other YCCC connections, Sarfaraz Ahmed (wk) and Alex Wharf (umpire).

Meanwhile, at the MCG, we have Travis Head and Mitchell Starc of Australia, Keshav Maharaj of S Africa, and Richard Kettleborough umpiring, with Richie Richardson match referee.
 

Newby

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Only 35 runs but the first significant innings from Adam Lyth today for the Perth scorchers in the Big Bash. With a run of low scores I was worried he might get dropped.

Shan Masood made only 10 in the Pakistan 2nd innings. With a run of low scores I'm hopeful he might get dropped! Go figure.
 

Newby

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Pakistan held out for a draw after bad light intervened. Another flat pitch and big first innings scores but it did end up being a decent Test. Not many there to watch it unfortunately.

If Pant is well enough to admit to 'dozing off' then hopefully his injuries might not be as bad as they could have been. Good luck to him and I too hope to see him back playing.
 

Newby

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I read that Otis Gibson has given up his coaching role with the Multan Sultans in the PSL in order to concentrate on his day job which sounds like good news. Ajmal Shazhad is his replacement as the Sultan's bowling coach.

The ECB have pulled Harry Brook out of the new SA20 competition in order to rest. As an all format players he isn't yet on a central contract, which seems a bit of an oversight when looking at some of the those who are!

England central contracts: Moeen Ali, James Anderson, Jofra Archer, Jonny Bairstow, Stuart Broad, Jos Buttler, Zak Crawley, Sam Curran, Ben Foakes, Jack Leach, Liam Livingstone, Ollie Pope, Adil Rashid, Ollie Robinson, Joe Root, Ben Stokes, Chris Woakes, Mark Wood
 

Donnylad

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I read that Otis Gibson has given up his coaching role with the Multan Sultans in the PSL in order to concentrate on his day job which sounds like good news. Ajmal Shazhad is his replacement as the Sultan's bowling coach.

The ECB have pulled Harry Brook out of the new SA20 competition in order to rest. As an all format players he isn't yet on a central contract, which seems a bit of an oversight when looking at some of the those who are!

England central contracts: Moeen Ali, James Anderson, Jofra Archer, Jonny Bairstow, Stuart Broad, Jos Buttler, Zak Crawley, Sam Curran, Ben Foakes, Jack Leach, Liam Livingstone, Ollie Pope, Adil Rashid, Ollie Robinson, Joe Root, Ben Stokes, Chris Woakes, Mark Wood
... interesting ... was he pushed or did he see the light? perhaps he does read the Corridor!
 

Tykemania

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Awful news about Rishabh Pant crashing his car, the Indian I most enjoy watching of all. Hopefully we'll see him again, but from the picture of the car you would think not.


In fairness, the fire damage was done after the had been dragged out of the vehicle. Had he been in it, you imagine his next game might be for a celestial XI.
 

Karma

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... interesting ... was he pushed or did he see the light? perhaps he does read the Corridor!

If I was doing that job I'd use one of my alternative e-mail accounts to register with the leading Yorkshire cricket forum (and also White Rose) . Of course they read it or else someone else reads it for them. If not, how can someone take an objective view of how they are perceived or are performing?
 

tbsteve

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For once, I have to completely disagree Karma. If I was a player or coach, there is no way I'd register on a fan forum. Much of social media this days is just vile, and fan forums can be the same. If I was a player, I wouldn't want to read people's opinions when I have a bad game, and would think it unwise to read when I have a good game. Dipping into the other place from time to time, I really hope players NEVER read what is posted on the match threads when we lose.

Do players need to be concerned with how they are perceived? Surely it's results that count. And are fan forums really an objective view of a player's performance? Or more subjective opinions, often made in the heat of the moment, and often based on limited information. Not everyone will be at the game, or see every ball. Who is better to offer advice? Armchair critics or the coaching staff and professionals employed by the club?

If I was retired, then it'd be different. But if I was a current player, I'd stay as far away from social media and forums as possible.
 

DaveMorton

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I have a nasty feeling that I would have read the things, and been boosted by the praise when I had played well, angered by unfair criticism when I had failed, but still unable to resist.

As tbs suggests, best for mental wellbeing to keep well away. Criticism from spectators and teammates is bad enough, and so much of the game is played inside the head.
 

Karma

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Good points , well made, tbsteve (and DM) Happy New Year to you, my assumption is that your New Year came in before mine in West Yorkshire.

I'm talking about the Head Coach only and I don't think for one moment most players would tell him how badly he was doing as that could affect their own 'career' . Likewise with the coaching staff reporting to the head Coach, as that could affect their own progress. Are they likely just to tell him how well he's doing? Probably, whether that's true or not. Yes he could get feedback from reading' the press'. However there is one school of thought that those who can do, do and those who can't, write about it. This applies to cricket , football, financial services and so on.

I suppose a coach could get some indication of how well or badly he's got his team performing by looking at the Championship table. Nearly bottom and relegated tells you something but not everything about for example the team strength , players availability, injuries etc etc .Silverwhere also tells something, again though not everything

I enjoy cricket but I never amounted to anything as a player and never coached (apart that is, from the terraces) . Indeed my knowledge and understanding about cricket is pretty sparse compared to the members on this forum. I enjoy learning from members insights. I'm not even referring to that other forum . If I was a coach though I think curiosity would get the better of me and I'd want to see what actual supporters thought of performances and player development. I can think of no better source than Corridor of Uncertainty . Others might not agree. I don't use unsocial media and when professional sportspeople complain of bad reports on Facebook, twitter or whatever I would suggest don't use them! i regard this forum as more civilised , objective and largely very kind and not confrontational or abusive

As a lover of Cricket , especially YCCC, I always hope that some of my posts (and by others) are read by people at YCCC as it comes from the heart . This applies as much to our Chair, as well as players, coaching staff etc. I think they are read, I think some messages have got across to the' other side' and there has been response,, albeit slowly in some cases.
 
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