Rugby Football 22-23

DaveMorton

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I watched about 10 minutes of it, during half-time of the RU. NZ were leading and seemed to score a perfectly good try, which would have put them two scores ahead. The ref's onfield decision was 'no try' - not clear why - and the TV official judged a NZ winger ahead of the kick, on a very brief inspection, from one angle only. The touchdown itself was perfect, and the final pass.

The reason stated was that the player had one foot in front, but the foot on the ground was behind the kicker, it seemed. I have never read the RL laws, so perhaps they were right. I thought NZ were robbed.

Back to the RU, where Bath won with a late, late try. Fabulous attendance and atmosphere at The Rec, where they never stopped turning up, even when Bath were rubbish. Great game against old enemies Leicester.

Sedgley play Tynedale this afternoon, our bogey team, though we did do the double over them last season.
 

Hawke

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Oh dear oh dear indeed. Samoa were rated as slight favourites in the opening game with England. Perhaps the big win worked against us.....Saw the final 20 mins in a pub. Tense tense dramatic.
Also saw the last 15 mins of the Womens' RU final. Presumably the sending off told. Oh dear oh dear again. Physical as well. Haven't seen female RU before. Yes they certainly go for it.
 

DaveMorton

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Nailbiter at Park Lane. Sedge 26-7 up at half-time, playing well, then - as Hawke says - oh dear.

Tynedale had all the ball, and when Sedgley got it they kicked it away. mostly to their big right-winger. Fortunately we got a try on our one visit to their half, but 33-14 became 33-21 and then 33-28, with us defending desperately with a man in the bin.

About a minute to go, they overthrew a line-out near our line, and our forwards ran down the clock, without giving away a penalty, for once. So 33-28 and still top with 10/10 wins so far. Elsewhere, Sheffield Tigers won at Rotherham in Shock of the Day.

Week off next week, coming at the right time, I think.
 

Newby

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I was away yesterday so I've just had the chance to watch the full RLWC Semi-final. Even though I knew that England had lost it was still a brilliant watch. England had had it too easy in the other games, including their first game against the same opposition, and looked off the pace in the first half. A much better second half but they just weren't good enough over the 80+ minutes.

I'll just have to be an honorary Samoan next weekend for the final.
 

DaveMorton

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I am gradually catching up on the RU, watching recorded games without knowing the result. I have just watched France v S Africa, featuring perhaps the two greatest backs playing today, and one was sent off for fouling the other! Cheslin Kolbe is more like Jason Robinson than Jason himself, and Antoine Dupont is surely Gareth Edwards reincarnated.

Kolbe jumped to catch a ball, Dupont tipped him onto his head, and that was the end of the game for both of them.

Could the RL result have been a case of Kangaroo avoidance?
 

Newby

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With the T20 world cup all done and the RLWC in the final week I think it's time I bought something on Amazon and signed up for free delivery, and the Autumn Internationals with Amazon prime, this will be my 3rd or 4th free trial.

I still wish the Rugby was on proper TV, but luckily my smart TV is smarter than me, so at least I can watch it in comfort in the front room.
 

DaveMorton

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Sign of the times, Rotherham Titans have sacked their coach, Adam Byron, after losing 4 games of the first 10 in Nat2N.
Who would have believed that, when league rugby started 35 years ago?
 

Newby

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First of the RLWC finals tonight when England take on France in the Wheelchair event. I was going to watch but have just read an article explaining that 2 of 5 players on the pitch at any one time are likely to be able bodied.

It seems letting able bodied people play was originally thought of as a good thing, allowing them to share a sport with disabled players.

According to the French coach the game at the top level is becoming far too rough, driven by the able-bodied element, which may be putting disabled wheelchair users off taking up the game.

It never ceases to amaze me how complicated almost every aspect of life can become.
 

Hawke

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First of the RLWC finals tonight when England take on France in the Wheelchair event. I was going to watch but have just read an article explaining that 2 of 5 players on the pitch at any one time are likely to be able bodied.

It seems letting able bodied people play was originally thought of as a good thing, allowing them to share a sport with disabled players.

According to the French coach the game at the top level is becoming far too rough, driven by the able-bodied element, which may be putting disabled wheelchair users off taking up the game.

It never ceases to amaze me how complicated almost every aspect of life can become.
that does complicate it in my mind too
 

Donnylad

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First of the RLWC finals tonight when England take on France in the Wheelchair event. I was going to watch but have just read an article explaining that 2 of 5 players on the pitch at any one time are likely to be able bodied.

It seems letting able bodied people play was originally thought of as a good thing, allowing them to share a sport with disabled players.

According to the French coach the game at the top level is becoming far too rough, driven by the able-bodied element, which may be putting disabled wheelchair users off taking up the game.

It never ceases to amaze me how complicated almost every aspect of life can become.
I have just watched the final.

The French coach was getting the battlefield prepared for his tactics. The majority of the really rough stuff - as opposed to just the hard collisions that inevitably take place - came from the French. So nice to see them lose the match and their cool. C'est toujours la meme chose.

The referees it seems were 'one from each side'. The French official was so patently biased that even the other officials looked fed up with him. He was jumping up and down and waving his arms and shouting at his co-referees, If ever I saw man who should not be doing any more big matches then it should be him.

England scored 5 tries. BTW I think that the rule may be that 2 of the team may be able bodied rather than the 5 on the field? Anyway, whether you have 1, 2 or no legs, the effort and the physicality, strapped into a wheel chair and then playing a contact sport belies belief.

England had a team in 6 world cups this month: 4 RL WCs, 1 Women's RU WC, the T20 WC. The cricketers and the Physical Disability team and Wheechair RL teams all won theirs. The 2 running RL teams didn't but the amateur women did exceptionally well against the pro antipodeans. The women's RU were just short.
That is a 50% return.

I suspect the soccer players will not make it 4 out of 7.
 

Karma

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I have just watched the final.

The French coach was getting the battlefield prepared for his tactics. The majority of the really rough stuff - as opposed to just the hard collisions that inevitably take place - came from the French. So nice to see them lose the match and their cool. C'est toujours la meme chose.

The referees it seems were 'one from each side'. The French official was so patently biased that even the other officials looked fed up with him. He was jumping up and down and waving his arms and shouting at his co-referees, If ever I saw man who should not be doing any more big matches then it should be him.

England scored 5 tries. BTW I think that the rule may be that 2 of the team may be able bodied rather than the 5 on the field? Anyway, whether you have 1, 2 or no legs, the effort and the physicality, strapped into a wheel chair and then playing a contact sport belies belief.

England had a team in 6 world cups this month: 4 RL WCs, 1 Women's RU WC, the T20 WC. The cricketers and the Physical Disability team and Wheechair RL teams all won theirs. The 2 running RL teams didn't but the amateur women did exceptionally well against the pro antipodeans. The women's RU were just short.
That is a 50% return.

I suspect the soccer players will not make it 4 out of 7.
Breathless! Well done England . The fact that it's the French who were defeated, I'm ashamed to say makes it all the sweeter.

Still, remember Agincourt!
 

Newby

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I ended up watching some of the game, it is quite exciting to watch, certainly at this level. Same rules for both teams and England beat France, what's not to like.

I'm still digesting the idea of the able bodied playing it, checking the rules it does say each team may have 2 able bodied players on the park at the same time. Some heart-warming stories of siblings taking up the game so they could play with a disabled brother etc gives the idea some context, which I think I can live with in a recreational setting.

Not sure it's appropriate at international level and I can see what the French coach was getting at when he worries that it might be getting a bit rough to be attractive for those with a debilitating illness such a cerebral palsy.
 

Donnylad

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Thanks for the upcheck Newby.

I was really surprised that I didn't see anyone wearing any kind of headguard. I guess they try to take the fall on the shoulders or twist sideways but the possibility of a head injury is a bit worrying.
 

Hawke

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Unfortunately we have a leak in our sitting room, exactly where the TV should be, so no viewing for me. That is the third epic, close encounter of a final between us and France isn't it. Great for the game. Great for wheelchair sport. Yes siblings and friends joining in for support and practice sounds just right. I heard snippets on the radio including reports that the French official was at times very cross with being overruled or at the England man's decisions. Sounds crazy not to have all officials neutral, crazy.
 

Newby

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Sorry to hear about your leak hope it's not too serious and it's sorted soon. We don't use the top floor of our three-storey house in the winter and I always feel some trepidation when I go up to have a look after a period of heavy rain. Up until about 5 years ago I never bothered looking and got a very nasty surprise one spring when I did go up there.

I'm sticking with the RLWC today and will try and catch up with the Autumn internationals next week if I'm offered the free trial, though the England New Zealand game looks tempting, and I will probably listen to the second half.

I hope Samoa can give a good account of themselves though I don't expect them to beat the Aussie's. Looking forward to Sir Kev entering the stadium at half-time after his tremendous 7 x 7 ultra-marathons taking him from Edinburgh to Old Trafford to raise funds for MND charities. I reckon he will be well on the way to £1.5 million by the time he and his marvellous support team get there.
 

Donnylad

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... and also think of Gary McKee from Cumbria - an RL man through and through who is running the '365 Challenge' ... that is a marathon every day for a year.
He is doing his 323rd today and brought on the match ball today .. and tomorrow he is running a marathon distance at an event in London with Sir Mo Farah .. and on Monday ....... 9,500 miles in a year

Kev and Gary .. real men.
 

Karma

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Sorry to hear about your leak hope it's not too serious and it's sorted soon. We don't use the top floor of our three-storey house in the winter and I always feel some trepidation when I go up to have a look after a period of heavy rain. Up until about 5 years ago I never bothered looking and got a very nasty surprise one spring when I did go up there.

I'm sticking with the RLWC today and will try and catch up with the Autumn internationals next week if I'm offered the free trial, though the England New Zealand game looks tempting, and I will probably listen to the second half.

I hope Samoa can give a good account of themselves though I don't expect them to beat the Aussie's. Looking forward to Sir Kev entering the stadium at half-time after his tremendous 7 x 7 ultra-marathons taking him from Edinburgh to Old Trafford to raise funds for MND charities. I reckon he will be well on the way to £1.5 million by the time he and his marvellous support team get there.
I think sometimes the epithet 'hero' is too easily used. However in the case of Kev, his love for his friend and former teamate is so great he would run to the end of the world and back if there was the slightest chance it would make his life easier and longer whilst publicising the need for more research as he raises vital funds. Personal suffering means little to someone so focused.

Kev and Gary true heroes, they don't often make 'em like that.
 

DaveMorton

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Breathless! Well done England . The fact that it's the French who were defeated, I'm ashamed to say makes it all the sweeter.

Still, remember Agincourt!
And Crecy. Don't forget Crecy, where the flower of French nobility was cut down by 'men of no worth'. In rugby terms it was about 60-0. Away.
 

Donnylad

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On a slightly different note ... I have just 'watched' by text update on the BBC, the second half of England v NZ.

Gripping. However I now see where all the idiots who make such stupid comments on Cricinfo go when there isn't any cricket to whine about.

I wonder if any of them have ever lifter a bat or laced up a pair of boots? It is apparently Eddie Jones fault that England give away stupid penalties and knock the ball on 5 metres out. None of the Jones knockers have made a comment during the last 20 minutes ... wonder why? Eddie didn't score the tries or kick the conversions either so I suppose that evens itself out! ..... not!
 
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