Rugby Football 22-23

Newby

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Disappointed to see that the Autumn RU Internationals are confined to Amazon Prime, not sure if I'm eligible for a free trial but I'm certainly not investing any cash money on it. I just hope they don't get hold of the 6 nations.
 

DaveMorton

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I was offered a free Amazon Prime when I bought a book recently. I've let it run on for the Autumn Internationals, which will cost me another £8.99, I think it is, for a lot of games, as well as a zillion crappy films which I don't want to watch, and music I don't want to hear. Must remember to cancel!

Six Nations is all on BBC and ITV, I think/hope.

Wales v All Blacks tomorrow, and Ireland v Boks tea-time; England v Argentina Sunday. I am wondering whether the Amazon matches are available in full after they've been played, or only once, live. Find out tomorrow, no doubt. Sedgley v Fylde is the big one!
 

Hawke

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Thoroughly enjoyed the wheelchair RL WC, England-Australia. Those wheelchairs must be strong and flexible.
 

Karma

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Thoroughly enjoyed the wheelchair RL WC, England-Australia. Those wheelchairs must be strong and flexible.
My 9-year-old great nephew who has cerebral palsy, plays wheelchair rugby, he really enjoys it, the chairs are strong and light, though he doesn't play to the same level as you've been watching (yet!) Any physical activity, he's the first to put up his hand. We'll be seeing him tomorrow in Huddersfield and I'll ask him if he's been watching the games that you have. (today, he's doing cycling)
 

Karma

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I was offered a free Amazon Prime when I bought a book recently. I've let it run on for the Autumn Internationals, which will cost me another £8.99, I think it is, for a lot of games, as well as a zillion crappy films which I don't want to watch, and music I don't want to hear. Must remember to cancel!

Six Nations is all on BBC and ITV, I think/hope.

Wales v All Blacks tomorrow, and Ireland v Boks tea-time; England v Argentina Sunday. I am wondering whether the Amazon matches are available in full after they've been played, or only once, live. Find out tomorrow, no doubt. Sedgley v Fylde is the big one!
During lockdown I ordered a new shower head, clicking on the cheapest delivery option. Unfortunately, I then realised I had been swept into Amazon Prime by inertia (my own fault for being a Luddite). It took me an hour or two to work out how and to actually cancel Prime but eventually I did, the same day. I did enjoy free delivery for the next month on subsequent physical purchases. Didn't bother with anything post lockdown from Amazon and only now use Amazon for Kindle book downloads. You are right to make a mental note to cancel.
 

Donnylad

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I watched the Wheelchair RL France vs Wales.

The French were simply majestique! Like a full set of French threequarters led by Serge Blanco or similar. Three wheelchairs is echelon passing the ball to the winger and over he goes! They have the art of steering the chair using their weight and their hips and they shimmy between defenders and the sheer speed that they generate ... wow. Wales utterly outclassed.

Please have a look at this - guts effort and masses of skill. Allez les Bleus
 

Karma

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3 years ago today, Saracens were fined £5.3mill and docked 35 points after being found guilty of salary cap breaches.

That's an awful lot of money. Money seems to be a recurring problem, not just in Rugby but football, golf, cricket...........
 

DaveMorton

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I struggle to watch anything concerned with disability. I admire these people hugely...just don't want to watch it. I feel it too much.
 

Hawke

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Thought about Leeds Tykes but stayed home on a damp day (saw they were playing the unbeaten league leaders!) and Guiseley but stayed home to watch the RL QF, England-PNG. England were really good and PNG were well below what we hoped for. I only watched the 1st half.
Later saw the last 20 mins of a very very tense QF between NZ and Fiji. NZ edged it just so it is Aus v NZ in the semi. Tonga-Samoa this afternoon. Should be physical!
Well done Sedge. Ilkley lost away and are falling down the table. Seem to have a lot of injuries/unavailabilities.
 

Newby

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The NZ v Fiji game was played at a frantic pace, lots of endeavour and direct running but not a lot of skill I didn't think.

Leeds Tykes pretty comprehensively beaten by the table toppers. I think they are an improved outfit this season, and mid-table mediocrity is I suppose better than flirting with relegation. There's still time for that of course.

I'm hoping to catch up on at least the highlights of the Autumn Internationals somewhere, I might go for the Amazon prime free trial next week, if it gets cold outside. It's so mild I'm still enjoying the great outdoors.
 

DaveMorton

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Awesome Saturday, beginning with England's T20 win. Then came Sedgley's 30-20 defeat of Fylde, a tough and at times spectacular game in the pouring rain. https://www.flickr.com/photos/forwarddefensive/albums/72177720303459233

Then home to watch Ireland v S Africa (not a great weekend for that country!), and I saved France v Australia for this morning. It turns out Amazon do offer replays. For how long they're available I have no idea, but I reckon I've already had £9-worth, with England v Argentina to come now, and another three weeks after that.
 

Hawke

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Got in late and only caught the last 5 mins of Samoa-Tonga but it was still gripping watching....Samoa will hopefully be a much different proposition when they meet England again the semi.
 

DaveMorton

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England Rugby spoiled the weekend (a bit). They were dire. No pace, no imagination. Jones should go, and take with him B Vunipola, Youngs, Farrell and Tuilagi. Yesterday's men. Every club in the Prem has a better scrum-half than Youngs. Even Leicester, as shown when van Poortvliet came on as sub.
 

Hawke

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Yes EJ had the magic touch when he first arrived but he lost it some time back.
 

DaveMorton

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It seems to be the natural life-cycle of a coach. They arrive, newly appointed, fresh and full of ideas. The players - sick of the old one - enjoy being challenged, and respond with good performances and results. But after 3 or 4 years the coach himself becomes stuck in his ways, like an old gramophone (remember them?). He prefers the players he started with, is reluctant to introduce new ones, everything becomes stale, and so it goes....

Very few coaches seem able to rise above this.

I see Ilkley lost again, but their games are close, mostly. Cleckheaton was a favourite Sedgley fixture, pre-leagues, then we were separated by the east / west divide, as we still would be should we get relegated. Super bowling green there...and cricket, of course.

West Bridgford have won twice since I slagged them off!
 

Donnylad

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Hmmm... tend to agree with DM about coaches having a definite shelf life .... however back in the day when I turned out for our local club, we had a 'mantra' for dismal dirty days like Saturday. 'Stick it up yer jumper and don't give away silly penalties" .... it did work.

England didn't seem to be able to do either on Saturday - but I am only going by reports I didn't see anything but the text feed. Someone said the ref didn't allow for the conditions ... don't remember that on the referee's courses I did way back. If you cannot stay on your feet over the tackle because it is wet and slippy then ........ don't. Just flopping down and laying there gives the ref no option.

Had England won 57-20 there would still have been people who would say rubbish. I would have taken 3-0 or any win. If people want to see kamikaze scores then go an watch basketball. The idea that rugby is only any good if there are hundreds - wells tens - of points scored came from the southern hemisphere, mainly Aussie. That was when they couldn't scrummage and ran around like loonies instead.

It isn't good I'll admit but is the Premiership the answer as a source of players? Ask why top players head for France and I suspect the answer is not just for the money.
 

Hawke

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It seems to be the natural life-cycle of a coach. They arrive, newly appointed, fresh and full of ideas. The players - sick of the old one - enjoy being challenged, and respond with good performances and results. But after 3 or 4 years the coach himself becomes stuck in his ways, like an old gramophone (remember them?). He prefers the players he started with, is reluctant to introduce new ones, everything becomes stale, and so it goes....

Very few coaches seem able to rise above this.

I see Ilkley lost again, but their games are close, mostly. Cleckheaton was a favourite Sedgley fixture, pre-leagues, then we were separated by the east / west divide, as we still would be should we get relegated. Super bowling green there...and cricket, of course.

West Bridgford have won twice since I slagged them off!
I think Cleckheaton CC was Andrew Gale's club. I used to go to Heavy Woollen Cricket Society meetings there. I watched Ilkley there 5 years ago. Handy for the M62.
 

DaveMorton

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Cleck was certainly Ian Wardlaw's club, but their great celebrity was John Bentley (Bentos). I remember him playing against SP as an 18-year-old (and getting sorted by our nasty number 8, in a way that you can't nowadays). He moved up through the RU ranks, including England caps, then went on to have a hugely distinguished RL career, I believe.

Later he returned to RU and had an Indian Summer of a tour with the British Lions to S Africa. He began as captain of the Dirt Trackers, the Wednesday XV, and ended up as an iconic figure in the triumphant Saturday side.

Better still, aged around 40 he returned to Cleckheaton. In his prime, playing for the Barbarians, where players wear their club socks, he had turned out with Cleckheaton socks rather than Sale ones, which was his current club. There were one or two tut tuts. I went to watch Cleck play Birmingham & Solihull in the RFU knock out at that level. His presence wasn't quite enough to bridge the class gulf...but Cleckheaton are still around, and the Pertemps B's, as they became known, have disappeared down the plughole of history.

There was always an affinity of mutual respect between Cleck and Sedge. Proper clubs.

We got on less well with B&S. In one game we were 10 points down, with time running out, so our number 8 gambled (a different number 8) with a long pass, which their winger intercepted, waved him goodbye, shouted, "You won't catch me, fat boy," and raced off. He was half right. He scored the try and was trotting back to his own half when our lad did catch him. One punch, one broken nose, and neither player took any further part in the game!
 

Hawke

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Thoroughly enjoyed last night's semi at Elland Road. Tough tough and very tense. Excellent. The only negative is that our tickets were in the top tier of the East Stand which is a long way from the action, though a great way to see the play developing.
 

Newby

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Thoroughly enjoyed last night's semi at Elland Road. Tough tough and very tense. Excellent. The only negative is that our tickets were in the top tier of the East Stand which is a long way from the action, though a great way to see the play developing.
I used to watch the football from up there, I wouldn't be able to see a thing these days.

Very good game of rugby league. I think superior fitness gave the Australians the edge in the final 20 minutes, but New Zealand found something towards the end and very nearly got over the line.

An excellent referee let the game flow as it's supposed to, and the players didn't seem to want to waste a minute.
 
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