Rugby Football 22-23

Hawke

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Yes Alnwick to Nottinghamshire is not reducing travel. Didn't know about the Pavoirs background. Interesting. The division largely seems very competitive with a lot of close matches. I have been away but am not well today so will probably miss out. Disappointing.
 

Karma

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Our Daughter lived at West Bridgford,
Ken Clark was local MP and sometome chancellor, didn't agree with all his politics but I like him a lot. Daughter just bought a property a few mikes away at Beeston, lovely place but not convenient for me strolling to Trent Bridge or staying overnight during a game. How selfish!

Anyway if I could just mention the other code, I'll be tuning in to St Helens v Leeds tonight at 6:00 . Leeds need the win more than St. Helens and I won't be hiding behind the sofa. Come on Leeds!

Hope you make a speedy recovery Hawke and feel up to taking in some games today.
 
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DaveMorton

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Ah, the Grand Final fits in nicely. I am going to watch Sedgley 3s v Glossop 2s in the North West Intermediate League 1, and I'll try to catch up with Leicester v Northampton tomorrow. I can't record games at present, so I have to wait for 'catch up'.

Nottingham RUFC used to play in Beeston (Ireland Avenue, good set-up) but then they used Notts County's ground. Not sure where they play now. Last night I started to write my piece for next week's match programme, including this bit:

It is sad to hear about the struggles of Wasps RFC. Back in 1982, when we were celebrating our 50th anniversary, we played them at their (then) Sudbury headquarters, having watched England at Twickenham the day before. They treated us well and respectfully, and the Wasps XV included Nick Stringer who had been on the bench for England. They fielded a team of just the right standard to play, and beat, a junior club.

My chief memory is of Reg Evans, who was acting as sponge man that day, running on the pitch to tend to a fallen comrade. “Give him an oil change, Reg,” shouted someone. That had to be Bob Sharpe, surely.

The clubs crossed swords again in the John Player Cup of 1999. We had had a memorable win down at Blackheath – that Paul Morris try! – and Wasps at home was our reward. I believe we lost money on the day, but it was a wonderful occasion. Wasps sneaked it, 53-3.

The old ground at Sudbury was similar in facilities to our Park Lane today, but all a bit run down and scruffy. Wasps moved to various football stadiums in the London area, then in 2014 most controversially to Coventry. Fans were no longer a consideration. This was business. Now it’s failed business. Very sad for a great old club.


Reg Evans was our long-serving scrum half, now ousted by one of my pupils, actually. He was a car mechanic, widely used by Sedge members, and used to claim a total lack of education, except he could spell 'carburettor', of which he was very proud. Bob Sharpe was a down-to-earth police constable with a savage sense of humour and brilliant comic timing.

Does going professional mean you lose all these little human touches?
 

Karma

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Strangely enough I know Ireland Avenue Beeston and coincidentally, I'm waiting for Notts County to come on the pitch at the LNER Community stafium v York City. County have an ex-York player , sod's law he' score.

And professionalism doesn't mean losing human touches , just learning some new tricks (at extreme cheating, but normally being crafty inside the rules)
 

Hawke

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Couldn't get to the match today but, and this is the modern world, listened to match commentary on my phone from Drystone Radio! Dramatic and tense it was too with a late try giving Ilkley the win over Sandal (Wakefield) but having to hang on in 10 mins added on including a last last ditch try saving tackle. Thank you Drystone Radio covering Craven and Wharfedale.
I thought Leeds Tykes had lost but there was a late fightback at Esher. Well done!!
Leeds RL will need to fightback judging by the score......
 

DaveMorton

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HT in the Grand Final, 12-6, great stuff. I watched Northampton v Leicester in the end, a late decision, I couldn't be bothered to get dressed to go out. What a game. Northampton Saints dominated a brilliant first half, but the Leicester pack took over in the second half and reduced them to a rubble of destruction.

That isn't an option in RL, but let's hope the horrible Saint Helens suffer the same fate. I've hated them ever since Alex Murphy, and I stopped watching RL when Murphy came to Salford as coach. About half the supporters did. Leeds have their own reasons to hate Murphy, a player sent off in a Wembley final following his blatant play-acting dive. All a very long time ago, of course.

Sedgley led Harrogate 26-0 at half-time. Must have eased off in the second half, or injuries - hope not. We play Hull Ionians next week, who lost at home to a Fylde team that must be better than they were last year. Another thumping win for Wharfedale, which is great news. Lots of tight games, including Tykes. Hull got slaughtered at home in Div 1.

Now back to the RL final. More great refereeing, by the way, and good use of technology. I wonder if the codes exchange ideas. The procedures are so similar.
 

Newby

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Disappointed obviously after all the hard work of getting there. I hoped we could do it, after restricting them to a 6 point lead at half-time but it wasn't to be.

Unlike Catalans and Wigan, St Helens never ran out of steam and kept on going for the full 80 minutes and we never once had them on the back foot even though we could, and probably should have put a few more points on the board.

At the end of the day they had more good players than us, 2 of whom, Roby and Lomax are in a different class in terms of reading the game, making the right plays, and running the opposition ragged. Perhaps we can match them next season.

Not much rest for the players with the RL world cup starting next month.
 

Karma

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Yes disappointment. That's 4 wins in this competition for St Helens on the trot, they are strong, skillful and have that extra bit of detetermination, the finished article.

Leeds are not. Not yet. But for a season on in which they at one time seemed relegation material, Leeds have made great progress.
Disappointment for their regular and even casual supporters, like me. But a different team now than a year ago. Got to start the next strong and finish strongest.

Had a flashback to a time when Leeds Rugby league were the top team, so was Leeds United top of the Leagues while Headingley based YCCC had swept all before them too. All at the same time. A moment in sporting history. Or did I imagine it all?
 
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Karma

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Not Yorkshire RL's weekend. In Championship semi final, York City Knights lost ( well got hammered) by heavy favourites Feathetstone Centurians 70 - 10.

Well to get beaten in a final like Leeds or a semi-final like York you first of all have to get there. Well done.
 
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DaveMorton

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I have just watched the most amazing, ridiculous game. Exeter were 31-7 up at half-time, and came within a referee's decision of scoring from the second-half kick off. Twenty minutes later, Harlequins were in the lead.

With the clock in the red, Harlequins led 42-38, and Exeter had the ball on their own line. Just a 100 metre move and a try in the corner! Then an intervention from the TMO about a forward pass. He pleaded with the ref to alter his decision, but one thing the replay camera did show was that the ref was exactly in line with the pass, with his two eyes, opposed to the monocular camera.

I thought he was right to overrule, so Exeter won 43-42. I suspect the decision might have gone the other way if the venue had been Harlequins' ground.

Very much my two favourite Prem teams. I have had huge respect for Exeter since they played Sedgley for five years in the Championship. Everything about them - their attitude and sportsmanship, and their home-grown nature. But they are under pressure, with two of their England stars reportedly moving to France for huge money. One of the drawbacks of our wage-cap. Jack Nowell must know his International days are numbered, and Sam Simmonds is a bit down the pecking order - a surprise though, he must have had a chance of making the World Cup squad.
 

Hawke

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Not Yorkshire RL's weekend. In Championship semi final, York City Knights lost ( well got hammered) by heavy favourites Feathetstone Centurians 70 - 10.

Well to get beaten in a final like Leeds or a semi-final like York you first of all have to get there. Well done.
I think we mean Leigh Centurians thrashed York. Fev surprisingly lost at home to
Batley.
 

Hawke

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I think we mean Leigh Centurians thrashed York. Fev surprisingly lost at home to
Batley.
in the eighties I saw Bradford N at the old Leigh ground and was at Fev for the visit of Papua New Guinea.
 

DaveMorton

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I watched Salford play Leigh many times at dismal old Hilton Park. Alex Murphy managed them before he came to us, so we knew what to expect, and we didn't like it. That area, Leigh and St Helens, is like the Land that Time Forgot. I used to dread the RU games down there: Leigh RUFC itself was almost posh, by comparison with Tyldesley, Vulcan and Newton-le-Willows. Then there was Birchfield and Eagle and Turner's Asbestos.

Thankfully, we (Sedgley) pulled ourselves up by our bootstraps and escaped that violent world. Not that we couldn't handle it. We were better at it than they were, and we used to win both fight and game. Tyldesley, incidentally, were one of the founders of the Northern Union in 1895, but it didn't work out for them and they were finally readmitted to the Rugby Union, with all sorts of conditions attached.
 
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Karma

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I think we mean Leigh Centurians thrashed York. Fev surprisingly lost at home to
Batley.
ABSOLUTLEY RIGH Hawke. Woke up and knew I'd got it wrong (again) I won't say I miss-spoke, just had a meltdown, that'll teach me not to follow three different games at the same time in two different sports in futures.

It's true only ladies can multi-task. I follow and regularly watch York City FC, follow York City Knights RL team (they share the same stadium) Doesn't alter the result, York City knights got hammered by a team from Lancashire

I'm notoriously inaccurate, according to my wife

Off to cricket, in hope. I think it's at Headingley but I'll check before setting off.
 

DaveMorton

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Leeds LS6 3 DP. There's a big ugly building there, you can't miss it. Off theer me sen, today.

So, are Leigh and Batley now playing off for a place in Super League? Batley, famous the world over for its Townswomen's Guild's re-enactment of the battle of Pearl Harbor. Leigh is actually famous (ish) for chess, Nigel Short, and a radio comedian from my time, Ken Platt. "I won't take my coat off, I'm not stopping.

Mancunians would say you can go to Leigh to see the lights: green to amber to red, to red & amber, and back to green again. Crowds gather.
 

Karma

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Leeds LS6 3 DP. There's a big ugly building there, you can't miss it. Off theer me sen, today.

So, are Leigh and Batley now playing off for a place in Super League? Batley, famous the world over for its Townswomen's Guild's re-enactment of the battle of Pearl Harbor. Leigh is actually famous (ish) for chess, Nigel Short, and a radio comedian from my time, Ken Platt. "I won't take my coat off, I'm not stopping.

Mancunians would say you can go to Leigh to see the lights: green to amber to red, to red & amber, and back to green again. Crowds gather.
I'd normally say yes but my phone doesn't
have a factchecker and I'm notoriously slapdash with facts! I've got used to it and just plough on. Passed the ugly building on my way for coffee, to get my brain started

But yes I think your supposition is correct.
A Yorkshire town, Batley ( the name comes from 'battled'), is still in the running. Once 'famous' for the Batley Variety Club where 'comedians' battled to see how many racist, mysogonistic and homophobic jokes they could squeeze into their acts. The word 'Variety' related to the mix of said jokes
I made the bit up about 'battled'
 

Newby

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I was away and missed that Worcestershire had actually been dropped from the Premiership. Very sad for their players and others who had an interest in the club. Wasps still walking a tightrope, much as they need it I can't see HMRC getting their money very soon.

In the other code Super league's new partner IMG are bringing back the idea of no promotion or relegation for the top clubs in order to protect their investment. Lots of financial common sense in what they are saying, but unfortunately, they have left sporting integrity out of the equation.
 
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