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Hawke

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Well very very pre-season but I believe the YCCC players available returned to training today.
 

Karma

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Where there's smoke, there's fire. Rumours start somehow. I was already determined to have a positive frame of mind for the new season and if true (and my understanding of the capabilities of these two mature players is correct) then I can't wait for the new season.
 

tbsteve

Active member
St Gab Mark II? Another aging bowler who is taking less wickets of late - he's 36 and taken a total of 25 in his last 10 outings (see below). If we're looking for a Kiwi left armer, why not aim higher for example Boult? And Wiese, though a decent one day mercenary, seems to be another, ageing, cheap signing.

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Tykemania

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They are not bad signings to be fair - few international commitments over the year, bring experience etc and dovetail in terms of where we would want them to play.

I like the Wiese half of the signing. We need people who can actually play the T20 stuff given how many people we lose.

Wagner...I like that he shows a move away from having to hire from the sub continent exclusively, and he is definitely a point of difference for our attack. But he is as you say 36 and probably at the top of a gentle downslope.
 

Newby

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I might have been pleased with these two possible signings a couple of years ago but I'm not sure now.

That's looking at what I think we can realistically expect of them in terms of their bowling, and in the case of Wiese his finishing with the bat.

From the point of view of having them around to help our young group gel into a tough team to beat I might be a bit more optimistic.
 

Tykemania

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That's looking at what I think we can realistically expect of them in terms of their bowling, and in the case of Wiese his finishing with the bat.
Think you're being a bit harsh here - Wiese has shown that finishing ability in the current World Cup after all!
 

tbsteve

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Once - 55 against UAE - 0 against Sri Lanka, 11* against Ireland and didn't bat against Ireland. I remember being unimpressed with him in the Hundred - hope he does something for us and is a replacement for Willey which is what we need, but I also think there's better players out there. We seem to be following last year's pattern of cheap - either older players or young guns no one knows.
 

Donnylad

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I'll reserve judgement I think. Both have attributes that could be useful as outlined ... and anno domini is not on their side as indicated.
However since we lack the big bucks (and possible the climate in and around the club) to attract super stars then maybe this will be OK.
If DG calls them 'exciting signings' then we will know that it is fire sale time.

A little teaser for every one:

Where would you place them in our best XI for any form of cricket next season - remember we have some other 'exciting signings' to accommodate as well and some players who we might or might not see much of.
 

Newby

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I'm loathe to take on trust something someone read in the Daily Mail so I suppose we should wait until it's official.

It has been shown to be effective, but I've never been too keen on Wagner and his relentless use of the short pitched stuff when he's played against us or against England.

Duanne Olivier with knobs on.
 

Tykemania

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A little teaser for every one:

Where would you place them in our best XI for any form of cricket next season - remember we have some other 'exciting signings' to accommodate as well and some players who we might or might not see much of.

Given at least one has now been confirmed, I'll have a go.

Championship Best XI (Everyone Available):
Lyth
Masood
Malan
Root
Brook
Bairstow
Hill
Bess
Thompson or Coad
Fisher
Wagner

Championship (Most Weeks):
Lyth
Masood
Malan
Hill
Ballance
Tattersall or Duke
Bess
Thompson
Fisher
Coad
Wagner

With Milnes rotating the seamers, and, for me at least, Luxton and Bean next in line with the bat.

T20 Best XI:
Lyth
Bairstow
Malan
Root
Brook
Wiese
Thompson
Bess
Rashid
Fisher
Milnes

T20 Most Weeks:
Lyth
Masood
Thompson
Ballance
Wiese
Hill
Fraine
Bess
Fisher
Mike (okay, I don't really believe this, but he will get the nod so...)
Milnes
 

Karma

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Tykemania, it's apparent that you've spent many an hour working out the permutations. Now that I've seen your 'picks' I can't think past them, especially if Gary Ballance makes it into the 2nd Division Championship team. That would be the icing on the cake.

Well done.
 

Donnylad

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Great effort TM!

I would not disagree in the main anywhere vut I would like to find a spot for Matt Revis, somewhere.
 

Tykemania

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Yes, Revis is a miss from both sides, and tbh I should have picked him over the inexplicable Mike. My hope for Revis is more that Gibson drops his obsession with his bowling and lets his batting shine (whilst still working on the bowling)
 

Newby

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I hope Dom Leech gets a look in somewhere in the bowler rotation.

With England call ups and perhaps Pakistan call ups I'd still be worried about our batting, especially if we don't get Ballance back.
 

Tykemania

Active member
We have to be fair to Gough and Gibson here, as hard as that is. When you have 4/5 of a test line up in Malan, Root, Brook, Bairstow it will eventually get hard because who, realistically signs for a county based on getting a game when all the good players are not available?

Until the ECB reward the production of England players, Im not sure how we get around that (and bare in mind, Lyth and Ballance were underutilised at international level, Masood is test class and Hill and Luxton will play test cricket in the next five years)
 

DaveMorton

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Yorkshire preferred Bean to Luxton in the latter part of the season, so perhaps Finlay is another potential one. Nor should we forget how young Duke is, and how very talented. The bowling factory-line has been less productive, recently.

Agree about Revis...as a batsman and, potentially, as a bowler. He is one who could make big strides over the winter, if Gough and Gibson can work some magic. Likewise Dom Leech.
 

Karma

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I understand, contrary to what was reported at the EGM, the 2023 fixture list will not be published today but now on 30th November.

Maybe
 

Newby

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I understand, contrary to what was reported at the EGM, the 2023 fixture list will not be published today but now on 30th November.

Maybe
I thought it was too good to be true. I'll believe the 30th when I see the fixtures in black and white.
 
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