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Hawke

Administrator
Staff member
Ha! Wasps!
Another year of Dazzler.........
LP, he and Ottis Gibson, yes after a winter of huge discontent, achieved something that the Arthur, Moxon, Gale triumvirate didn't...relegation
 

Donnylad

Well-known member
Oh dear, the evil I wished not to experience a few postings ago has come true.

Same old, same old;
"There is much to be optimistic about, not least the exceptional young talent coming through, and I am excited about the signings we have made to improve the team."

I presume this means that we will be being 'excited' as we stumble through division 2.
I assume now that the Chief Executive role has probably been a changed to a non-cricket general manager or similar whilst DG goes around talking an 'amazing' game?
The man from Wasps clearly wasn't up for the role when it was advertised .. they were looking for a cricket based/experienced CEO .. amazing what a bit of 'administration will do to change a chap's outlook.
What a dead loss appointment - a fire sale CEO. He was comfortable at Wasps but he must have known the parlous situation they were in ... if he ddin't ....... doesn't bear thinking about.
I suppose that we should be grateful it isn't anyone from Worcester Warriors.
 
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tbsteve

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I'm with Hawke, an absolutely shocking season. The way Gough talks, we should get him in the side - finally we've found someone who can spin! Compared to the year before where we were the only team in contention for all 3 trophies in August - making the knock outs in both one day cups and the top division of the strange CC - this year is nothing other than a disaster, and I'd have more respect for the management if they simply told the truth.

I have no idea what OG has done. Revis went from an opening bat into a bowling allrounder. Waite went from mainly a bowler to top 6 batter who bowled a bit. Thommo went backwards in the CC (but I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and excuse him on the basis of the ridiculous workload placed on him with so many others absent). When asked to go on comms, OG replied to Doidge that he wasn't into that kind of thing, which to me just showed a total lack of respect for the supporters. I was sceptical about his appointment as he seemed to be a good international bowling coach, where not much work needs doing with the players, but lacked county experience. Now I'm convinced he's the wrong guy for the job.

And Gough? His total mismanagement is a joke. A lack of thanks to Patto, one of the longest servants of the club. Not choosing TKC for Scarbados because he was going to leave at the end of the season - then deciding he could play after all when we were desperate. Failing to make a team environment where our one day cap Willey actually wants to play. And not even living in Yorkshire, so working remotely for part of the week! Why has his role become permanent?

I'm going back to hibernation, thinking of Yorkshire's current situation just puts me in a foul mood.
 

Karma

Well-known member
I won't labour the point but after over 50 years of watching and supporting YCCC I can honestly say this has been the worst season both on and off the field. The latter impacted upon the players and actual cricket.Yes, there were some bright spots and good individual performances, but I'm glad to see the back of last season and looking forward to a brighter on field performance in 2023.

Let's hope any enquiries, charges and fallout has long gone next April together with Lord Patel and his blinkered views about diversity.

Did I wish everyone Happy Diwali?
 
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tbsteve

Active member
No, and I can be offended that whilst remembering Diwali, no one at the club wished people a happy Pavarana? ;)
 

Karma

Well-known member
Sorry Happy Pavarana.

Well, after inviting 200 people to the club last week for a free lunch, er sorry, dinner for the' Inaugural Diwali event at Headingley', my cynical mind just thinks it's a PR stunt to say to the ECB look how diverse we are at YCCC. (and please don't punish us)

That may be true but there seems an awful lot of money being spent, and publicity given during 2022 in areas that many people would not call div 'for all'. Admittedly they had Sir Geoff Boycott and Dickie Bird to cut the 'traditional Diwali Celebration Cake before a dance performance from the Punjabi Roots Academy. The cost? Don't know, but with food, soft drinks, entertainment, staff and hire of the Headingley facilities I'd guess at something like £20,000 for 200 guests. Still when we have such a financial deficit might as well pour more petrol on the flames.

I may be paranoid but ' the thread' this year basically seems to exclude the majority of members and supporters, stretching to 'Iftar' but ignoring' 'Happy Yorkshire Day' (until the club was embarrassed into putting something late in the day not on the website but on social media) We certainly didn't have 'Happy Christmas' or 'Happy Easter' which as well as holiday periods are also religious festivals.

Conversely, there was a fundraiser at Headingley for the poor people caught up in the floods on the sub-continent, but it was only publicised after the actual event had taken place. Had I been able to attend or been aware of the fundraising earlier, I would have wanted to contribute

Right I've had my rant
 

tbsteve

Active member
I'm with you - perhaps I'm cynical, but it all seems very focused on a narrow area. The fundraiser for the flood was for the same area where we have links with a club.

There are lots of other nationalities/ethnicities/religions in Yorkshire which we could celebrate. My point with Pavarana is that if Dwali, why not other celebrations too? Why is only one getting special treatment?

Personally, I'd prefer us to be a cricket club and focus on cricket. Leave the political correct nonsense to the politicians.
 

Karma

Well-known member
Own goal or no ball?

Either way Yorkshires appointment of Darren Gough as Director of Cricket was made without complying with the ECB's Equality, Diversity and Inclusion Action Plan.

Apparently he was originally appointed three days after the Coaching staff were all sacked hardly time to have a proper and open recruitment process!

Lord Patel has a history of 'wrong process', costing lots of money, this is just another example.

I'm not really saying anything about the 'acting' position being made 'permanent' last week, particularly after the appallingly bad first season resulting in relegation and high profile players leaving. Others have already indicated their displeasure.
 
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Newby

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You have to assume nobody else of any standing will touch the job with a barge pole. I expect him to blow the budget, such as it is, on trying to win the T20 blast.
 

byased

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You have to assume nobody else of any standing will touch the job with a barge pole. I expect him to blow the budget, such as it is, on trying to win the T20 blast.
Well, I hope he blows the budget on trying to win something, and not just produce England players. If rules stay the same, we have a good percentage chance of getting out of division 2, but then that might disappear anyway, so a trophy of some sort would be preferable from my perspective.
 

Hawke

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Staff member
Well perhaps YCCC do indeed read this forum as Christmas is back on and with carols! Good stuff. Right and very proper.

 

Karma

Well-known member
Yes 'walls have ears'! An indication of inclusivity (for all) and is to be welcomed. Perhaps the Grinch has a heart

Received an e-mail from the club about this. It had an attached 'survey' which was really an opportunity to say to the club how many people from our member's households were coming. My wife and I will partake of the Christmas spirit one week early.

I am aware that some people haven't received the same e-mail. At the EGM on 11th November, it was mentioned (pretty vociferously) that some members hardly ever, if at all, receive e-mails directly from the club. Mr. Dawson said they'd look into this and It was pointed out that this depends upon how their individual permissions have been given for marketing etc. I think that's why at the end of the Website Christmas item there's an opportunity to e-mail the club.

Also received a separate e-mail that Members subs/renewals this year will not be collected by direct debit. I assume this is because new prices and options will be issued, shortly. I'm not going to assume prices will be lower to reflect our relegated status because we all know what happens
 

Newby

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I'm not due to be in Leeds that day so I don't think I will be attending but I hope all those who do have a wonderful experience.

Have they had a Christmas event in previous years? I really can't remember.

If not, and this is at heart a case of being 'shamed' into it because of criticism about the religious focus of previous celebrations, then I hope that is something the club will learn from.
 

Karma

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I'm not due to be in Leeds that day so I don't think I will be attending but I hope all those who do have a wonderful experience.

Have they had a Christmas event in previous years? I really can't remember.

If not, and this is at heart a case of being 'shamed' into it because of criticism about the religious focus of previous celebrations, then I hope that is something the club will learn from.
First time in my memory that I've known such an event.

I am, I'm afraid, one of those individuals who have been banging on for most of this year about celebrating certain events for a minority of our diverse members and supporters but not the majority eg tardy response to 'Yorkshire Day' , Easter passed us by without a whisper.

I have indicated to the club that my wife and I will be attending, we live fairly near so look forward to that.

Now that we know the club reads these forums then we should expect more reasonable and inclusive actions from YCCC
 

Karma

Well-known member
Another development. Another accusation of an anti-semitic moment from a Muslim cricket person, this time the newly appointed Essex chairman.

Presumably , based upon recent findings this means that ECCC is Institutionally Racist.

But in my eyes, no more so than YCCC or the Royal Family
 

byased

Active member
Why anyone in a responsible position, or who has ambitions to be so, should use social media is beyond me. It is difficult to control emails and texts etc, but the wider Facebook type stuff is a recipe for catching you out if someone wants to get at you.
The whole racism situation is becoming a bit difficult to take as seriously as it should be taken. Words are one thing, and whilst they can be hurtful the old saying of sticks and stones etc, still rings true for me. It is how you treat people that matters. Most people think the place they come from is better than anywhere else, Yorkshire or England or wherever, and yet it is all just accident of birth. Trump with his America rantings is sickening, and whilst lauding where you come from, that often means you denigrate other places, Lancashire, Germany or wherever.
Perhaps everywhere is institutionally racist, i am not sure anymore.
 

DaveMorton

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This is what a wise man had to say:

God gave all men all earth to love,
But since our hearts are small,
Ordained for each one spot should prove
Belovèd over all;
That, as He watched Creation’s birth,
So we, in godlike mood,
May of our love create our earth
And see that it is good.

So one shall Baltic pines content,
As one some Surrey glade,
Or one the palm-grove’s droned lament
Before Levuka’s Trade.
Each to his choice, and I rejoice
The lot has fallen to me
In a fair ground—in a fair ground—
Yea, Sussex by the sea!

There's lots more....
 
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