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Hawke

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Beth Mead from Whitby is runner-up in this year's voting for the Women's Ballon d'Or
 

Karma

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Yesterday, Doncaster Rovers sacked their manager Gary Mcsheffrey after a run of 'disappointing results.' He was manager of the under-18's when last December he was then appointed 1st team manager. At that time Doncaster were in the relegation zone and indeed they dropped down to League division two

This season Doncaster have played 14 games, won 6, drawn 3, lost 5 and have 21 points - this is 3pts off the play-off zone for promotion.

Contrast this with Harrogate Town, same division: played 14 games, won 3, drawn 2, lost 8 and have11 points, 2 points above the relegation zone.

Harrogate have won one game in the last ten. Last year the Harrogate Town manager, Simon Weaver, signed a 3-year extension to his contract
He's been manager now for thirteen years and at the time of his contract extension it was said " I am happy to be able to share the news that Simon will continue to drive the club forward ......." (according to Chairman Irving Weaver)
 

Donnylad

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Karma - my cup runneth over with the news about McSheffrey.

The position is not that bad ... we have a a lot of new signings and loanees ... we are mid table.

BTW - I don't suppose the Harrogate Chairman and the Harrogate manager are related ..... by any chance?
 

Karma

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Donnylad, although I don't follow every team closely I just thought it a bit soon to be sacking the manager when the team's only 3 points off the playoff zone. Have I mentioned I support York City? Well last season they lost the first 4 games and bobbled about the bottom/middle half of the table until maybe the last ten games of the season, when the new signings and loan players began to gel, they went on a fantastic run to get into the playoffs and gain promotion. Unlike York, a big club like Donny can carry a reasonable player pool - they signed a York player (Jack Degruchny) last summer, he's 19 and one for the future, he's currently out on loan from the club

I was making the point that Donny is basically a hairsbreadth away from the promotion play-offs whereas Harrogate are in trouble at the other end. Simon Weaver has done well with them, he gives a great post-match interview (well he should after thirteen years of doing it) but his interview voice of late has become more strained and 'depressed' The owner of the club is his dad, multimillionaire Irving Weaver!!!!
 

Newby

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They say there comes a time when the players stop listening to the manager and however good they are it's time for a change. Perhaps it's time for Simon to kick himself upstairs.
 

Newby

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FA Cup First round starts today with the BBC showing Hereford v Portsmouth tonight and South Shields v Forest Green Rovers tomorrow.

My main interest is Leeds United who start in January, but I'll have a side interest and watch tonight's game and follow the winner, or whoever beats them in the coming rounds, through to the final.

As an ex sailor it has to be 'Play up Pompey'. I don't know too much about cows!
 

Karma

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I went in the last round to watch AFC Bury home to my home town club York City. It was a classic, full ground, pouring rain and both teams almost running into the ground, steam rising. The game could have gone either way but York got a winner in the last 5 minutes.

I e-mailed the chairman of Bury to say how well organised it was, how friendly and helpful the stewards were and wished them every success. I got a lovely reply (which is more than I got from the YCCC Chairman)

Tomorrow my team are away again, at Shrewsbury, lovely place but a couple of divisions higher than York , so I'm not going, but you never know and I'll probably regret not making the effort (going instead to watch the live league game at Guiseley v Warrington and lsten to the York game on my radio)

I remember many years ago going to an FA Cup game at Hartlepool and somebody said don't mention the monkey . Of course you should never dare a fool, so I did mention the monkey. As someone with a nautical background, Newby I'm sure you know why it was not a good idea!
 

byased

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I went in the last round to watch AFC Bury home to my home town club York City. It was a classic, full ground, pouring rain and both teams almost running into the ground, steam rising. The game could have gone either way but York got a winner in the last 5 minutes.

I e-mailed the chairman of Bury to say how well organised it was, how friendly and helpful the stewards were and wished them every success. I got a lovely reply (which is more than I got from the YCCC Chairman)

Tomorrow my team are away again, at Shrewsbury, lovely place but a couple of divisions higher than York , so I'm not going, but you never know and I'll probably regret not making the effort (going instead to watch the live league game at Guiseley v Warrington and lsten to the York game on my radio)

I remember many years ago going to an FA Cup game at Hartlepool and somebody said don't mention the monkey . Of course you should never dare a fool, so I did mention the monkey. As someone with a nautical background, Newby I'm sure you know why it was not a good idea!
I thought of going to Shrewsbury, and also to QPR to watch the Baggies and link up with son of Seth, which I do from time to time. In the end, as it was my birthday, hardly went out of the house, descended on by children and grandchildren, so all very nice. Shame about York. I once saw them play Dudley Town in the FA Cup, 1977 ish. Ground later collapsed due to old limestone workings, and so the football club and cricket clubs folded. Cricket club was a good one in the past, Ron Headley amongst past players.
 

Newby

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Didn't Hartlepool vote their mascot, H'Angus the monkey, in as the town's Mayor some years ago.

I like the Maritime quarter of Hartlepool, even a Frenchman, though perhaps not a monkey, would feel safe there these days, but I can leave the rest of the town alone.

Just watched the BBC highlights of yesterday's FA cup games, unlucky for York, bit of a Filip for Harrogate though. Plenty of non-league involvement into the hat for the next round.

Portsmouth won on Friday, so I'll follow them into round two.
 

Karma

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I've heard that and the story about a monkey being the only survivor of a French warship being washed ashore and being hanged as a spy. Funny how stories change over the years to become fact.

Must be over 40 years ago my wife and myself saw the hulk of HMS Warrior , massive but sadly in need of repair at Hartlepool. And now seen it again 3 times at the The Royal Dockyards in Portsmouth. Massive on the outside, even bigger inside ,spent hours exploring every inch.Magnificent.

I listened to the Shrewbury v York game while watching a local game (Guiseley v Warrington Town) and will watch the York highlight tomorrow. Strangely enough at yesterday's game I sat next to 2 gentleman who were I discovered Harrogate supporters, I asked why they hadn't gone to Bradford City. They said because (I think) it was a lunchtime kick-off and they would have to set off mid-morning(bit early for them) - takes all sorts , good wins for Harrogate and Portsmouth , good luck with draw for the next round.

I like cup games. York will have other chances in the FA Trophy and FA Vase, been to Wembley to see them win a final or two
 

Hawke

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I'm sure I have mentioned before but my limited attendance at the early rounds of the FA Cup are limited to
1974 Farsley Celtic 0 Tranmere Rovers 2 1st Round at Elland Rd Steve Coppell played for TR and scored
1983 Halifax Town 2 Whitby Town 3 1st Round fans separated at the final whistle on the field by police on horses
2017 Guiseley 6 Shildon 0 4th Qualifying Round
 

Newby

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Talking about Hartlepool, which we were a few weeks ago I seem to remember. Hartlepool won their FA cup replay last night and will now host Harrogate town in the second round on Saturday the 26th of November.

Football world cup just round the corner now, not too interested at the moment as the coverage is all about other matters, hopefully it will grow on me when an actual game of Football breaks out.
 

Donnylad

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I am not being political - well just a teeny bit perhaps - but I will not watch.

Three reasons :

1..... the crooked and corrupt award by the crooked and corrupt FIFA to a country that is not suitable for football. I hope no-one dies from heat exhaustion.
2..... the obscene amount of money that the aforementioned cooked and corrupt organisation will trouser from this event. How much of that will filter down to even division 2 of the leagues?
3..... the break in our national winter game just when things were getting interesting. It will give the players a rest someone said ..... so what are Scotland doing playing Turkey tonight???

There is a 4th - and most important reason - is connected to the way the host country is governed and the way it treats human beings - but that one is for another place.
 

Karma

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I am not being political - well just a teeny bit perhaps - but I will not watch.

Three reasons :

1..... the crooked and corrupt award by the crooked and corrupt FIFA to a country that is not suitable for football. I hope no-one dies from heat exhaustion.
2..... the obscene amount of money that the aforementioned cooked and corrupt organisation will trouser from this event. How much of that will filter down to even division 2 of the leagues?
3..... the break in our national winter game just when things were getting interesting. It will give the players a rest someone said ..... so what are Scotland doing playing Turkey tonight???

There is a 4th - and most important reason - is connected to the way the host country is governed and the way it treats human beings - but that one is for another place.

You are so right on all points.

In my local coffee shop while waiting for my skinny frapachinos (not) I was speaking to the barista ( I hope that's the right word) and on the tv screen was a comedian threatening to shred £10,000 if Beckham continues with his obscene contract promoting the morally bankrupt regime hosting the World Cup. The barista doesn't know where it's being held and doesn't do politics so discussion ended there. However, Beckham is as morally bankrupt as Quatar .How does he sleep at night?

The comedian could instead of shredding £10,000 donate it to the Trussel Trust and do something positive for people less fortunate than himself, there's a call for emergency funding.
 
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Karma

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We still play Sri Lanka at cricket, and even Qatar didn't massacre 77,000 of its own citizens.
Good point well , horrendous how the government forces forced the 'rebels' into the tip if the island so that they could more easily be 'dealt with'

But then I've never been to Sri Lanka or paid to watch them play cricket. Neither did I go to Spain until long after Franco was dead and
after the Colonel's attempted coup failed (even then the only part of the mainland I'd go to was Barcelona)

I've never been to Turkey either, though I understand it's excellent value for money. You should see the problems I have buying clothes, I read all the labels avidly.
 

Newby

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Difficult territory and no matter how hard you try it's impossible to keep your hands totally clean in regards to doing business with regimes or countries you may well detest. I think we are all using quite a lot of Qatari gas at the moment just as an example.

It's taken us quite a long time to get where we are in areas such as Health and Safety and worker's rights, so expecting emerging economies to get it right in their early years may be asking a lot. Similarly, I can remember when same sex relationships were unlawful in this country. Anybody who got through the system would certainly be hounded out of the forces until relatively recently.

If I do warm to the tournament it will be a football game that draws me in.

I think we have all known since the deal was done, 12 or so years ago that it was the wrong place to hold it.
 

Karma

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Difficult territory and no matter how hard you try it's impossible to keep your hands totally clean in regards to doing business with regimes or countries you may well detest. I think we are all using quite a lot of Qatari gas at the moment just as an example.

It's taken us quite a long time to get where we are in areas such as Health and Safety and worker's rights, so expecting emerging economies to get it right in their early years may be asking a lot. Similarly, I can remember when same sex relationships were unlawful in this country. Anybody who got through the system would certainly be hounded out of the forces until relatively recently.

If I do warm to the tournament it will be a football game that draws me in.

I think we have all known since the deal was done, 12 or so years ago that it was the wrong place to hold it.
Absolutely, it's sometimes hard to keep my moral compass pointed in the right direction (or is that social conscience)
It's a filthy day in west Leeds, big brolley day , a walk, coffee, I know we don't grow coffee beans in the UK but I'm not going to ask where they're from. Cheers
 

DaveMorton

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I live in a city that grew rich on cotton and the slave trade, so perhaps we shouldn't throw stones at Qatar's glasshouse, nor Sri Lanka's...but I have not returned since it happened, lovely though it is.
 

Karma

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I live in a city that grew rich on cotton and the slave trade, so perhaps we shouldn't throw stones at Qatar's glasshouse, nor Sri Lanka's...but I have not returned since it happened, lovely though it is.
I think the reason I dislike Quatar is because it is a country which very recently (in my view) committed a fraud to acquire the rights to the world Cup, built the stadia on the backs and in many cases the graves of immigrant manual workers. Also, it bought the World Cup not because it has a tradition or love of football, it doesn't, but in an attempt to promote the country itself. The climate seems to be unsuitable for football at this time of year too.

I do however appreciate it has it's own views on LBGT, alcohol, etc it's their culture and religion and if I was a visitor, I would respect that. But I don't have to like that or the treatment of workers who built the stadia. Nor brand Beckham who takes massive amounts of money for being part of the PR.

I suppose in a lot of cases the problem is how recent was the outrageous behaviour. With Sri Lanka I remember what happened to the Tamils only too well.
 
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