association football

[Hawke]

dare we...dare we....don't talk about politics, religion and football... if it goes pear shaped we will abandon it....but yes as Karma said well done to Bury FC over the hills...may they prosper and invite Dave M to a match...I went there years ago and saw them lose to Brentford....Brentford of course have gone in a different direction and I leave it there...


glad to see York City won away in the National League...when at university there were 3 Chelsea fans on our floor (Yes I know) and I recall them actually going to see the Pensioners at York in Div 2, 75-76....seems those 2 clubs also went different ways...


Scarborough won at Farsley Celtic in what must be Nat League North ...in 1975 I saw Farsley play Tranmere at Elland Rd in an FA Cup 1st Round tie. Tranmere won and Steve Coppell, I think, played for them.

I once saw Scarborough play in the late 80s probably when Yorkshire were rained off. I recall the excellent McCains French Onion soup more than the game.

Good post and questions from Donnylad under a different heading.

 

[Karma]

dare we...dare we....don't talk about politics, religion and football... if it goes pear shaped we will abandon it....but yes as Karma said well done to Bury FC over the hills...may they prosper and invite Dave M to a match...I went there years ago and saw them lose to Brentford....Brentford of course have gone in a different direction and I leave it there...
glad to see York City won away in the National League...when at university there were 3 Chelsea fans on our floor (Yes I know) and I recall them actually going to see the Pensioners at York in Div 2, 75-76....seems those 2 clubs also went different ways...
Scarborough won at Farsley Celtic in what must be Nat League North ...in 1975 I saw Farsley play Tranmere at Elland Rd in an FA Cup 1st Round tie. Tranmere won and Steve Coppell, I think, played for them. I once saw Scarborough play in the late 80s probably when Yorkshire were rained off. I recall the excellent McCains French Onion soup more than the game.
Good post and questions from Donnylad under a different heading.

Last football reference from me , well it was either this or watch the Hundred.No contest. Many years ago I and colleagues went to London to give one-to-one pensions advice to employees of a major American Company who used to known for making razor blades The advice was on a fee basis paid for by the Employer. It was intense work and at the end of the day I persuaded my immediate colleague to go over the Thames where we watched a game of footy at Brentford. Brilliant. And afterwards
We went to a succession of pubs. When I say pubs I mean that in that part of London every street cornernwas a pub but like stepping into someone's lounge in their own home. That struck me , warm welcome, warm beer but a great night out. My colleague was late in the next morning. No stamina.End

 

[Hawke]

Last football reference from me , well it was either this or watch the Hundred.No contest. Many years ago I and colleagues went to London to give one-to-one pensions advice to employees of a major American Company who used to known for making razor blades The advice was on a fee basis paid for by the Employer. It was intense work and at the end of the day I persuaded my immediate colleague to go over the Thames where we watched a game of footy at Brentford. Brilliant. And afterwards
We went to a succession of pubs. When I say pubs I mean that in that part of London every street cornernwas a pub but like stepping into someone's lounge in their own home. That struck me , warm welcome, warm beer but a great night out. My colleague was late in the next morning. No stamina.End

Griffin Park had a pub on each corner of the ground. I once saw a match there and read in the prog that a visiting player had supported Leeds Utd as a child so I cheered for him!

 

[Hawke]

I have only once seen York City. When my dad's job took us from the Leeds area to East Yorkshire, we watched a lot of Hull City.

In something like 65-6 I remember York actually won 4-1 at Hull, early in the season Hull City went on to win the 3rd Div.

I walked around Bootham Crescent on a visit to York just before lockdown but never went inside.

I saw York RL host Hull FC at the old Wiggington Rd ground in the seventies and took a school party to an athletics event at the then new York RL stadium.

 

[Hawke]

The Lions are Guiseley, I don't know why, and is the Citadel Farsley Celtic's new name for their ground ??? It was always Throstle Nest.

(answering from a different thread)

 

[Hawke]

Cobblers of course are Northampton T as Luton are the Hatters.

Is York City the Robins due to their red shirts?

 

[Karma]

Wow I was actually at the Hull v York game, Pullman coaches from York, great game at the old ground. Remember subsequent games and rise of Hull, Waggy, Butler great team great success.New ground now

Bootham Crescent, happy memories, actually saw York RL v Leeds RL there ( Cup game win for Leeds, bigger capacity ground) Bootham Cresc and Wiggy Road both gone now, both teams share magnificent LNER Community Stadium, works well for both clubs.Nearly 6,000 at last footy home game.

 

[Karma]

Cobblers of course are Northampton T as Luton are the Hatters.

Is York City the Robins due to their red shirts?

That's right ,red shirts or faces.

 

[Karma]

The Lions are Guiseley, I don't know why, and is the Citadel Farsley Celtic's new name for their ground ??? It was always Throstle Nest.

(answering from a different thread)

That's what they call it friendly club they even give out free team sheets

 

[Hawke]

Ha! I recall the Hull City 1 York City 4 match because of the startling score line. Hull City has lots of investment from the local Needler family and bought Ken Wagstaff from Mansfield and Ian Butler plus Ken Houghton from Rotherham to go alongside Chris Chilton.

They won Div 3 ahead of Millwall. City v Millwall on Boxing Day was watched by 40000.

They actually drew at Chelsea in the FA Cup. They put benches on the running track for kids for the replay. I was sat on one.

 

[Donnylad]

Picking up posts from here and elsewhere

Yes to Grimsby

So we have Grimsby, Chesterfield, Exeter, Rotherham = their ground used to be called Millmoor ... yes there once was a mill there!

Grimsby used to present visiting teams with a box of fresh cod; Exeter's ground has gates with heads of ancient Greek warriors on them - and also the ground shares a name with a that of a much higher flying team.

The Cobblers .... industrial connection ...... also Hatters .. but who are the Glovers or Glove men???

Lions - loads of them but the Yorkshire one is near Otley ... AFC Guiseley .... and the Citadel - Farsley Celtic's ground - it seems, was previously known as the Throstle Nest .... so which former Premiership team used to be called the Throstles because of the name of their stadium?

 

[Hawke]

Picking up posts from here and elsewhere

Yes to Grimsby

So we have Grimsby, Chesterfield, Exeter, Rotherham = their ground used to be called Millmoor ... yes there once was a mill there!

Grimsby used to present visiting teams with a box of fresh cod; Exeter's ground has gates with heads of ancient Greek warriors on them - and also the ground shares a name with a that of a much higher flying team.

The Cobblers .... industrial connection ...... also Hatters .. but who are the Glovers or Glove men???

Lions - loads of them but the Yorkshire one is near Otley ... AFC Guiseley .... and the Citadel - Farsley Celtic's ground - it seems, was previously known as the Throstle Nest .... so which former Premiership team used to be called the Throstles because of the name of their stadium?

oh it has to be WBA at the Hawthorns

 

[Capybara]

The Glovers are Yeovil Town and I believe York City were the Robins because they played in red, nothing more complicated than that.

While I have a season ticket at Middlesbrough, I like to get about, so was at Scarborough v Hereford three weeks ago. On Bank Holiday Monday, as I was still in the north I went to Keighley to watch Steeton. They played their home games in the Rugby League ground the last time I went, just before COVID, but have now moved to a fairly nondescript 3G ground a few hundred yards away towards Bradford. They play in the North West Counties League which has made a number of incursions into Yorkshire in recent times - Ilkley Town currently play in that league, for instance. Steeton's neighbours, Silsden - so close that they share a railway station - have also previously played in the NWCL but are presently in the Northern Counties East League.

On Bury, the situation is complicated. After they lost their Football League place a group of supporters formed Bury AFC, which is the team that won in the FA Cup yesterday, and they are now in their third season. Another group of supporters, however, wanted nothing to do with Bury AFC and concentrated instead of securing Bury's old ground, Gigg Lane, which they did earlier this year, along with the trading name of Bury FC. The logical solution would be for Bury AFC to move into Gigg Lane and the two groups to merge, and there are proposals for this, but there is bad blood between the two groups and some fairly entrenched feelings.

 

[Hawke]

The Glovers are Yeovil Town and I believe York City were the Robins because they played in red, nothing more complicated than that.

While I have a season ticket at Middlesbrough, I like to get about, so was at Scarborough v Hereford three weeks ago. On Bank Holiday Monday, as I was still in the north I went to Keighley to watch Steeton. They played their home games in the Rugby League ground the last time I went, just before COVID, but have now moved to a fairly nondescript 3G ground a few hundred yards away towards Bradford. They play in the North West Counties League which has made a number of incursions into Yorkshire in recent times - Ilkley Town currently play in that league, for instance. Steeton's neighbours, Silsden - so close that they share a railway station - have also previously played in the NWCL but are presently in the Northern Counties East League.

On Bury, the situation is complicated. After they lost their Football League place a group of supporters formed Bury AFC, which is the team that won in the FA Cup yesterday, and they are now in their third season. Another group of supporters, however, wanted nothing to do with Bury AFC and concentrated instead of securing Bury's old ground, Gigg Lane, which they did earlier this year, along with the trading name of Bury FC. The logical solution would be for Bury AFC to move into Gigg Lane and the two groups to merge, and there are proposals for this, but there is bad blood between the two groups and some fairy entrenched feelings.

oh dear shame about Bury’s divergence... but thanks for the update...yes Ilkley Town have had a couple of promotions and hosted Bury early last season in the NW Counties League but I had not cottoned on and missed it.

 

[Karma]

I think common sense will hopefully prevail with the two Bury factions. I recall an item on TV about the fallout at the original club, unfortunately it's the ex-players and longstanding supporters that suffer. Often a sports team is the heart of a town or city and many places have 'lost' an original club but the new and re-named one emerges and goes onwards to success.

About 6 years ago I went to Accrington Stanley (home to York City, York lost) - They went bust in the early 1960's but reformed a few years later. At the end of last season York City played Boston United in the National league North play-off final and beat them to gain promotion to the lofty heights of the National League. Boston went out of business (I think about 15 years ago) but have reformed are going strong.

Incidentally I think Scarborough have also had their problems but now newly promoted to the National League North and going very well. Saw them win 2 - 4 at Farsley on Saturday to go 4th in the League , most play comes through outstanding player (ex-York City) Michael Coulson.

 

[Karma]

A game of two halves

York City AFC have announced that in their game at Yeovil last Saturday racial abuse was directed at the York City captain and centre forward. This was when the score was 0-0 and just as he was taking a penalty. He missed. There is a Yeovil and Police investigation. The same player went on to score the match winner a bit of a miss-hit which was fortunately deflected into the net. Justice? In the video highlights I could clearly hear the abuse. Some years ago, York City retained the services of the former Leeds United player the late Albert Johannson. I've seen bananas thrown on a pitch but fortunately not for many years.

There is a difference between individual actions and a club being Institutionally Racist!!!!!

Some better news for an ex-York City player. Graham Potter has just been announced as the new Chelsea AFC Manager. Good player great bloke too. Best of luck in your new position. Without being too negative I hope the contract includes an early release compensation package for Graham as this club has just sacked a manager who brought them some success and we're hardly into the new season. Fortunately for me I've little real interest in football at the 'top' level as I think the players are grossly overpaid and together with Sky are ruining a once great game.

 

[DaveMorton]

Regarding Bury FC, one of the 'suits' there was Neville Neville, better known as the father of two footballers. I played cricket against Neville senior many times, at Greenmount CC. I cannot claim to have liked him, and I thoroughly disliked Greenmount. I saw his boys play for Lancs age-group teams. They must have got their talent from their mum.

Neville died quite young, and his later life was marred by accusations of a sexual nature, for which he was found not guilty - but people still remember, as we've seen with the Rafiq affair. Mud sticks. So unfair.

 

[Donnylad]

... as I have posted elsewhere I don't have much interest in the cricket tomorrow. I have always liked the early rounds of Cup football and the Scottish Cup is on so I see lots of wonderful names. Clubs where the butcher, the baker, the teacher, the plumber etc. get a change to reach for a day in the sun.
Well it used to be but there are no many many players from second and third level international teams playing in the lower league. I wonder if
Jeanfield Swifts, Civil Service Strollers, Forres Mechanics, Gala Fairydean, Inverurie Loco Works and all the others will have Senegal u-19, Tunisia B, Croatia u-21 or Jamaican internationals turning out?
I hope not .. I still think the Cup competitions in football are worth something ... 'well played and good luck in the next round' was always a good way to shake hands with your opponents.

 

[Newby]

I don't think it was this early in the competition, it was probably the first round proper, but I used to love it when BBC TV picked a team early doors and kept with them, televising their matches on a Friday night. They would then move on to follow whoever it was who beat them. I always thought it was a really good idea, it at least added interest for me.

They seem to have moved on from that idea now and are looking to show a strong non league team, usually one with a couple of players who have dropped down from the leagues, beat a Div 2 'giant'.

Good luck to all the teams and their supporters as they begin the journey.

 

[Newby]

It's an oddity that 3 premier league games have been called off because of policing issues, i.e the forces that usually police the games have lent officers to bolster numbers in the capital.

Meanwhile the Metropolitan police were able to field a team in the FA cup qualifying round, they won too, so well done to them and, being parochial well done to Scarborough Athletic who won also.